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The funny thing is that it's just a perception change. You'll be able to message emergency services 200 miles from civilization that you need help and they stil

by Difwif 3y ago

The funny thing is that it's just a perception change. You'll be able to message emergency services 200 miles from civilization that you need help and they still won't get to you in time. Everyone makes a big deal about emergency services with this, and I'm sure it will save some lives, but I wonder if it will actually have a significant impact. Surely we're just shifting the weakest link to emergency service response time. Personally, the sooner you realize no one is always going to be there to save you, and you need to take care of yourself, travel gets much more fun. You're also probably safer by actually planning ahead with proper risk mitigation.

eternityforest 3y ago
Most of the emergencies I hear about are things where you probably won't die for at least a day or two, and some of these places are only a 20 minute drive from the nearest police station, just hidden behind a hill or something from the cell tower. The most experienced people probably aren't gonna die unless something really bad happens where minutes count, but the rest of us might have issues like "Hey I followed Google maps here but nothing looks at all like the map so I'm stuck in a jail made of boulders somehow". With navigation problems it seems pointless to try and figure out what problems are possible or likely, it's relying on spatial abilities that can't be put into words, if you're not good at that stuff you can make mistakes that seem almost impossible to mess up. You basically feel like you've been spun on a carousel, blindfolded, and airdropped in a random place, while hallucinating, and you have no idea how any of it happened. One should probably not go to dangerous places assuming someone will always be able to save them, but it really does seem like this would make a big difference. On the other hand, if someone is lost, it could be because they didn't have any battery left, and if someone was unprepared and got themselves into trouble, they may well have also forgotten to bring a power bank....
- bestnameever 3y ago
  I know of someone who died on a generally safe day hike. People had to hike out and then drive to get cell service for a rescue. If it was a few months later, an iPhone likely would had saved it. It was never reported in the news.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    Genuinely curious, how would the iPhone have saved them ?
    - rattt 3y ago
      Presumably referring to iPhone 14+ satelite emergency texting https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213426 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213426
      - ChatGTP 3y ago
        I assume so, just wondering what would've happened if they had the phone, how far were they from the rescue service, what was the circumstances etc.
ChatGTP 3y ago
What's going to happen is, people will end up with a false sense of security, they will fall victim to the marketing of this, go out into the wilderness, get lost and emergency services will be flooded with SOS calls and have to urge the public to stop going and doing dumb stuff. A similar thing happens in Australia, Google telling people to take dangerous roads, people do it not thinking "oh this road looks remote and dangerous" and either die or need rescuing. Governments have been erecting warning signs which say, "Do not follow your phone down this road".

by Difwif 3y ago

eternityforest 3y ago

Most of the emergencies I hear about are things where you probably won't die for at least a day or two, and some of these places are only a 20 minute drive from the nearest police station, just hidden behind a hill or something from the cell tower. The most experienced people probably aren't gonna die unless something really bad happens where minutes count, but the rest of us might have issues like "Hey I followed Google maps here but nothing looks at all like the map so I'm stuck in a jail made of boulders somehow". With navigation problems it seems pointless to try and figure out what problems are possible or likely, it's relying on spatial abilities that can't be put into words, if you're not good at that stuff you can make mistakes that seem almost impossible to mess up. You basically feel like you've been spun on a carousel, blindfolded, and airdropped in a random place, while hallucinating, and you have no idea how any of it happened. One should probably not go to dangerous places assuming someone will always be able to save them, but it really does seem like this would make a big difference. On the other hand, if someone is lost, it could be because they didn't have any battery left, and if someone was unprepared and got themselves into trouble, they may well have also forgotten to bring a power bank....

bestnameever 3y ago
I know of someone who died on a generally safe day hike. People had to hike out and then drive to get cell service for a rescue. If it was a few months later, an iPhone likely would had saved it. It was never reported in the news.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  Genuinely curious, how would the iPhone have saved them ?
  - rattt 3y ago
    Presumably referring to iPhone 14+ satelite emergency texting https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213426 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213426
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      I assume so, just wondering what would've happened if they had the phone, how far were they from the rescue service, what was the circumstances etc.

ChatGTP 3y ago

What's going to happen is, people will end up with a false sense of security, they will fall victim to the marketing of this, go out into the wilderness, get lost and emergency services will be flooded with SOS calls and have to urge the public to stop going and doing dumb stuff. A similar thing happens in Australia, Google telling people to take dangerous roads, people do it not thinking "oh this road looks remote and dangerous" and either die or need rescuing. Governments have been erecting warning signs which say, "Do not follow your phone down this road".