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I don’t think anyone is seriously suggesting it’s a cult or a conspiracy (though I’m sure there is some coordination), but that doesn’t mean it’s not mostly fad

I don’t think anyone is seriously suggesting it’s a cult or a conspiracy (though I’m sure there is some coordination), but that doesn’t mean it’s not mostly fad or trend driven vs data driven. IME I’ve worked in offices where at least 20% if not more did absolutely nothing. I mean literally nothing, not that they were doing things that just weren’t visible to me. It has a lot more to do with company culture and performance management than onsite/offsite. I’m not against the idea that the proportion of people who can succeed with remote work is lower, but most of the RTO push seems to be more to do with current management fads than anything else.

dilyevsky 3y ago
Even in this thread there are comments saying it’s some sort of scheme to prop up failing real estate and similar nonsense. So yes, it is in fact a moderately common belief.
- oooyay 3y ago
  The idea that RTO is tied to real estate in a multitude of ways is not nonesense: https://fortune.com/2023/10/12/atlassian-rto-hybrid-work-real-estate-office/ https://fortune.com/2023/10/12/atlassian-rto-hybrid-work-rea... https://fortune.com/2023/11/12/return-to-office-hybrid-work-real-estate-downsizing/ https://fortune.com/2023/11/12/return-to-office-hybrid-work-... > The survey also found that 80% of companies have already downsized their office since the pandemic, and 82% are worried about being able to keep their current one, whether that’s due to a recession or an underutilization of space.
  - dilyevsky 3y ago
    So two articles written by one dude that literally contain a few words that speculate some nonsense. No hard data. Did you even read this yourself? Who is losing space because it's underutilized and why?