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So decreased sexual repression, more open communication about sex, and less likely to wait til marriage to have sex. Those all sound like positive things to me

So decreased sexual repression, more open communication about sex, and less likely to wait til marriage to have sex. Those all sound like positive things to me. How are you correlating marriage success to these changes? If anything I would think those who decide to marry would be less likely to encounter sexual compatibility issues if they were able to openly discuss their needs with one another. Statistics appear to show that these changes may be leading to lower divorce rates, it also appears that divorce rates are highest among those from previous generations. The rates still seem highest among those who married early in life, but less people are marrying early now, which seems to be helping.

gred 3y ago
You seem determined to frame the changes in a positive light. I disagree, but that's besides the point for the purposes of this discussion. My point is that in a society which heavily discourages premarital sex, dating sites might optimize the marriage process, as opposed to optimizing the hookup process. For an extreme example, see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57818758 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57818758
- voidwtf 3y ago
  I have never heard of something more dystopian, a state sanctioned dating app. Huxley rolling in his grave right now.
- supertimor 3y ago
  Ah yes, a not invasive at all super viable solution. I think most women would prefer to be single than participate in a state sanctioned dating app that requires that they be spied on for four years. “Dating apps are popular in Iran, but from now on only Hamdam will be legal. Iranian law also criminalises consensual sexual relationships outside marriage. According to Hamdam's website, users will have to verify their identity and undergo a psychological test before they start searching for a partner.” [0] When a match is found, the app "introduces the families together with the presence of service consultants", who will "accompany" the couple for four years after their marriage. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57818758 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57818758

gred 3y ago

You seem determined to frame the changes in a positive light. I disagree, but that's besides the point for the purposes of this discussion. My point is that in a society which heavily discourages premarital sex, dating sites might optimize the marriage process, as opposed to optimizing the hookup process. For an extreme example, see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57818758 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57818758

voidwtf 3y ago
I have never heard of something more dystopian, a state sanctioned dating app. Huxley rolling in his grave right now.
supertimor 3y ago
Ah yes, a not invasive at all super viable solution. I think most women would prefer to be single than participate in a state sanctioned dating app that requires that they be spied on for four years. “Dating apps are popular in Iran, but from now on only Hamdam will be legal. Iranian law also criminalises consensual sexual relationships outside marriage. According to Hamdam's website, users will have to verify their identity and undergo a psychological test before they start searching for a partner.” [0] When a match is found, the app "introduces the families together with the presence of service consultants", who will "accompany" the couple for four years after their marriage. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57818758 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57818758