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Why is this post greyed out? Musk is being a broken clock, he's right, even if it's for the wrong reasons. It's aviation, SAFETY before ALL else. This is, al

Why is this post greyed out? Musk is being a broken clock, he's right, even if it's for the wrong reasons. It's aviation, SAFETY before ALL else. This is, along with things like Medicine, one of the very last industries that should get involved with culture wars on any side.

MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago
He’s said: “Do you want to fly in an airplane where they prioritized DEI hiring over your safety? That is actually happening.” That is not only wrong for the wrong reasons but wrong in and of itself. You and Musk and the cacophony of right wing commentators attempting to shoehorn this week’s thing to be outraged by exhaust a lot of people. I’m only semi-surprised that (your?) group isn’t blaming Boeing’s failures on trans people participating in the “wrong” gender of sports.
- nvm0n2 3y ago
  How is it wrong?
  - MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago
    Readers: this is the sort of engagement and dialogue you want to avoid if you’re arguing in good faith. This person is asking me to prove the negative. As the person making or supporting the claim, the onus is on them to support the claim they’re making, which is something like “DEI led to decreased safety” or something. I don’t blame them, if they’re arguing in good faith, for attempting to shift this because as far as I can tell there is zero evidence supporting this claim. Additionally, I can tell from their comments elsewhere in the post that they’re definitely not arguing in good faith so this is likely an (pretty bad) attempt to just waste my time. If I were to engage in good they would certainly just post some nonsense or keep asking questions like “How is it wrong?” or “Why?”
    - nvm0n2 3y ago
      I get the impression you don't realize this, but you subtly shifted what you're claiming to try and avoid the fact that you're in the wrong. Original claim: they prioritized DEI hiring over your safety What you're now saying: the claim they’re making, which is something like “DEI led to decreased safety” or something Read again - the claim is that they have prioritized DEI hiring over safety, a claim amply backed up by Boeing's own statements which are very proud of this fact. Employees who were once told to focus on safety and quality exclusively are now told this is no longer their only priority, and now they must focus on recruiting racial minorities and women as well. There isn't yet hard evidence this policy has led to a concrete safety problem, which is the claim you're now rejecting. But nobody said it had. Only that it's very, very likely to.

MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago

He’s said: “Do you want to fly in an airplane where they prioritized DEI hiring over your safety? That is actually happening.” That is not only wrong for the wrong reasons but wrong in and of itself. You and Musk and the cacophony of right wing commentators attempting to shoehorn this week’s thing to be outraged by exhaust a lot of people. I’m only semi-surprised that (your?) group isn’t blaming Boeing’s failures on trans people participating in the “wrong” gender of sports.

nvm0n2 3y ago
How is it wrong?
- MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago
  Readers: this is the sort of engagement and dialogue you want to avoid if you’re arguing in good faith. This person is asking me to prove the negative. As the person making or supporting the claim, the onus is on them to support the claim they’re making, which is something like “DEI led to decreased safety” or something. I don’t blame them, if they’re arguing in good faith, for attempting to shift this because as far as I can tell there is zero evidence supporting this claim. Additionally, I can tell from their comments elsewhere in the post that they’re definitely not arguing in good faith so this is likely an (pretty bad) attempt to just waste my time. If I were to engage in good they would certainly just post some nonsense or keep asking questions like “How is it wrong?” or “Why?”
  - nvm0n2 3y ago
    I get the impression you don't realize this, but you subtly shifted what you're claiming to try and avoid the fact that you're in the wrong. Original claim: they prioritized DEI hiring over your safety What you're now saying: the claim they’re making, which is something like “DEI led to decreased safety” or something Read again - the claim is that they have prioritized DEI hiring over safety, a claim amply backed up by Boeing's own statements which are very proud of this fact. Employees who were once told to focus on safety and quality exclusively are now told this is no longer their only priority, and now they must focus on recruiting racial minorities and women as well. There isn't yet hard evidence this policy has led to a concrete safety problem, which is the claim you're now rejecting. But nobody said it had. Only that it's very, very likely to.