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Being immortalized doesn't suddenly mean you stop paying bills

criley2 3y ago
This is all so wild to me. All of human art is derivative of other art and all human artists wildly steal from one another. Further, "style" isn't copyrightable or sellable. Artists don't sell a style, they sell artwork. I just think it's wild that the entire human art scene is allowed to blatantly rip each other off (all pop sounds the same, all anime looks the same, all comic books look the same, etc etc) and it's OK, but the second that a computer does it, it's the most horrifying crime against art in history. I think the fascinating part to me will be when AI is good enough to pick apart human art and point out all the thefts. "You stole this chord, these lyrics are basically ripped from here" "Your style is 98% this artist and you've only really change two elements" etc. Artists hide behind their influences and it's going to be a new world when a computer can ascertain every single reference that was stolen, going to be a lot of interesting law suits.
- kaetemi 3y ago
  A model that could reliably match up your work with similar artists and similar works (and point out the details) would be cool the have, tbh. Especially in music, where it's so easy to subconsciously copy some tune you vaguely heard somewhere before. Could set aside that worry of accidental copying, as well as give an objective measure in trying to steer towards a more unique niche.
mock-possum 3y ago
Having a distinct artistic style also doesn’t suddenly mean you stop paying bills.
gfodor 3y ago
Sure, I’m just saying I’d have expected more artists to say “I know this will harm me financially but as an artist it is the most transcendent kind of success I could have imagined.” Eg Grimes sees it this way, anyone else? It’s very surprising to me this isn’t a dialectic within the global community of artists. It points to me as a sign that perhaps art has become so intertwined with commercial and financial interests the latent mental models artists have of art have shifted over time, broadly speaking, away from art for art’s sake or art to speak.

This is all so wild to me. All of human art is derivative of other art and all human artists wildly steal from one another. Further, "style" isn't copyrightable or sellable. Artists don't sell a style, they sell artwork. I just think it's wild that the entire human art scene is allowed to blatantly rip each other off (all pop sounds the same, all anime looks the same, all comic books look the same, etc etc) and it's OK, but the second that a computer does it, it's the most horrifying crime against art in history. I think the fascinating part to me will be when AI is good enough to pick apart human art and point out all the thefts. "You stole this chord, these lyrics are basically ripped from here" "Your style is 98% this artist and you've only really change two elements" etc. Artists hide behind their influences and it's going to be a new world when a computer can ascertain every single reference that was stolen, going to be a lot of interesting law suits.

kaetemi 3y ago
A model that could reliably match up your work with similar artists and similar works (and point out the details) would be cool the have, tbh. Especially in music, where it's so easy to subconsciously copy some tune you vaguely heard somewhere before. Could set aside that worry of accidental copying, as well as give an objective measure in trying to steer towards a more unique niche.

mock-possum 3y ago

Having a distinct artistic style also doesn’t suddenly mean you stop paying bills.

gfodor 3y ago

Sure, I’m just saying I’d have expected more artists to say “I know this will harm me financially but as an artist it is the most transcendent kind of success I could have imagined.” Eg Grimes sees it this way, anyone else? It’s very surprising to me this isn’t a dialectic within the global community of artists. It points to me as a sign that perhaps art has become so intertwined with commercial and financial interests the latent mental models artists have of art have shifted over time, broadly speaking, away from art for art’s sake or art to speak.