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> no turn signal necessary You're a BMW owner by any chance? If you're planning to turn to the left/right, use your turn signal, even if someone would deem it

by diggan 3y ago

> no turn signal necessary You're a BMW owner by any chance? If you're planning to turn to the left/right, use your turn signal, even if someone would deem it unnecessary. Better to use the turn signal too much than too little. Overall, highway on-ramps looks wildly different all across the world, and what you say would be impossible in lots of places around me as an example, where you need to be able to basically stop at the on-ramp if there is too much traffic, to find the right gap, otherwise you'd run straight into others. > We need to be teaching kids offensive driving tactics Hard disagree :) I think Spain where I live has a huge problem with too offensive driving, where even if the rules/laws says something, people act on the "first come, first served" basis when it comes to preference.

henriquez 3y ago
Not a BMW driver but I never keep my blinker fluid topped up. In California, turn signals just telegraph your intent to make a move, giving other drivers valuable milliseconds to block your approach. The element of surprise is crucial to an offensive driving regimen.
- seadan83 3y ago
  One thing I do like about California drivers - they do generally let you in. Hard disagree to not use turn signal in CA. > The element of surprise is crucial to an offensive driving regimen. Really is fun and games in the abstract. Unfortunately we lose the idea that the roadways are a communal space, instead everyone else is just an obstacle. I love that fore-sight, the ability to predict a mere _30_ seconds into the future disappears for so many drivers. Just observe what people will do to gain 1 or 2 car lengths of ground, as if they could not predict that they would do effectively nothing swerving around to the lane that happened to gain 10 feet of open concrete.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  There’s a joke that in LA, a turn signal is used to tell other drivers what you just did. In other parts of CA, it’s pretty different. Even in LA, I used my blinkers like normal (but yes, sometimes you do have to start moving in your lane for others to take you seriously).
- mindslight 3y ago
  > turn signals just telegraph your intent to make a move, giving other drivers valuable milliseconds to block your approach You're thinking of turn signals wrong. Generally you shouldn't be using them as a request, but rather a declaration of "this is happening". If another driver can act to thwart your action in "milliseconds", you didn't have the margin to do it in the first place.
  - henriquez 3y ago
    That's just ignorant. I've been playing Mario Kart for decades and I know how to drive. It's not my fault if other drivers are terrified by my sudden maneuvers.

by diggan 3y ago

henriquez 3y ago

Not a BMW driver but I never keep my blinker fluid topped up. In California, turn signals just telegraph your intent to make a move, giving other drivers valuable milliseconds to block your approach. The element of surprise is crucial to an offensive driving regimen.

seadan83 3y ago
One thing I do like about California drivers - they do generally let you in. Hard disagree to not use turn signal in CA. > The element of surprise is crucial to an offensive driving regimen. Really is fun and games in the abstract. Unfortunately we lose the idea that the roadways are a communal space, instead everyone else is just an obstacle. I love that fore-sight, the ability to predict a mere _30_ seconds into the future disappears for so many drivers. Just observe what people will do to gain 1 or 2 car lengths of ground, as if they could not predict that they would do effectively nothing swerving around to the lane that happened to gain 10 feet of open concrete.
gnicholas 3y ago
There’s a joke that in LA, a turn signal is used to tell other drivers what you just did. In other parts of CA, it’s pretty different. Even in LA, I used my blinkers like normal (but yes, sometimes you do have to start moving in your lane for others to take you seriously).
mindslight 3y ago
> turn signals just telegraph your intent to make a move, giving other drivers valuable milliseconds to block your approach You're thinking of turn signals wrong. Generally you shouldn't be using them as a request, but rather a declaration of "this is happening". If another driver can act to thwart your action in "milliseconds", you didn't have the margin to do it in the first place.
- henriquez 3y ago
  That's just ignorant. I've been playing Mario Kart for decades and I know how to drive. It's not my fault if other drivers are terrified by my sudden maneuvers.