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The CCP may choose to live in a dreamworld, but you and I shouldn't pretend it has any basis in reality.

more_corn 3y ago
The strong language from China is all preparation for the planned invasion. “What are you talking about? This is a rogue province. We’ve been warning you for years” They even have a deadline. If you somehow think it won’t happen it’s you living in a dreamworld.
- billtsedong 3y ago
  I just hope it happens while we are young
  - CogitoCogito 3y ago
    I find it quite sad that you’re looking forward China’s invasion of Taiwan and the innumerable deaths that would result.
- CogitoCogito 3y ago
  Where did I ever say the risk of China's invasion should ever be ignored? You and I and anyone honest should laugh at the dreamworld their foreign policy lives in (i.e. the idea that the PRC and ROC aren't two separate countries), but we should take their delusions very seriously. Taiwan should continue to build their defense and their international relationships to try to keep China from invading. No one paying attention is under any illusions as to the true point of China's propaganda.
- tim333 3y ago
  It's quite unlikely to happen for the same reason it hasn't happened for the last century. It's militarily hard to do because you'd have to land tens of thousands of troops and it's hard to get them over the sea. The last waterborne invasion of that kind of scale was D-Day and if anything things would be tricker now that anti ship missiles are rather effective. I mean the communists have wanted to take over Taiwan since 1949 when they took over the rest of China but the sea remains a barrier. It's quite possible that rather than Taiwan falling to the commies, it will be the mainland that gets taken over by democracy.
  - ianburrell 3y ago
    My worry is that China believes that Taiwanese are weak and will surrender immediately. This is the impression I get from China supporters online. They also talk about Taiwan capitulating from bombardment or blockade, but those have never worked in the past. I think Taiwan needs to show more preparation and resolve. Maybe this election will change things and they will spend more on military. Mostly by stockpiling shells, missiles, mines, and food. Taiwan has advantage that they can build own missiles since few will sell to them.
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gmerc 3y ago
Putin lived in a dream world ok. When you fail to slap them out of it, you end up with serious sleepwalking accidents.
baobun 3y ago
Youd do well in pressuring your own country to recognize Taiwan as a nation - very few do. Pleasing China trumps ethics for most nations at the end of the day, apparently. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Taiwan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Taiwan
- CogitoCogito 3y ago
  Honestly I think at this point supporting Taiwan's defense is more important. The entire world could be unified in officially acknowledging the ROC, but it is military and economics that deter any Chinese invasion. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that the world should be less duplicitous and honestly acknowledge the ROC, but that alone won't really be much protection for Taiwan.

The strong language from China is all preparation for the planned invasion. “What are you talking about? This is a rogue province. We’ve been warning you for years” They even have a deadline. If you somehow think it won’t happen it’s you living in a dreamworld.

billtsedong 3y ago
I just hope it happens while we are young
- CogitoCogito 3y ago
  I find it quite sad that you’re looking forward China’s invasion of Taiwan and the innumerable deaths that would result.
CogitoCogito 3y ago
Where did I ever say the risk of China's invasion should ever be ignored? You and I and anyone honest should laugh at the dreamworld their foreign policy lives in (i.e. the idea that the PRC and ROC aren't two separate countries), but we should take their delusions very seriously. Taiwan should continue to build their defense and their international relationships to try to keep China from invading. No one paying attention is under any illusions as to the true point of China's propaganda.
tim333 3y ago
It's quite unlikely to happen for the same reason it hasn't happened for the last century. It's militarily hard to do because you'd have to land tens of thousands of troops and it's hard to get them over the sea. The last waterborne invasion of that kind of scale was D-Day and if anything things would be tricker now that anti ship missiles are rather effective. I mean the communists have wanted to take over Taiwan since 1949 when they took over the rest of China but the sea remains a barrier. It's quite possible that rather than Taiwan falling to the commies, it will be the mainland that gets taken over by democracy.
- ianburrell 3y ago
  My worry is that China believes that Taiwanese are weak and will surrender immediately. This is the impression I get from China supporters online. They also talk about Taiwan capitulating from bombardment or blockade, but those have never worked in the past. I think Taiwan needs to show more preparation and resolve. Maybe this election will change things and they will spend more on military. Mostly by stockpiling shells, missiles, mines, and food. Taiwan has advantage that they can build own missiles since few will sell to them.

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gmerc 3y ago

Putin lived in a dream world ok. When you fail to slap them out of it, you end up with serious sleepwalking accidents.

baobun 3y ago

Youd do well in pressuring your own country to recognize Taiwan as a nation - very few do. Pleasing China trumps ethics for most nations at the end of the day, apparently. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Taiwan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Taiwan

CogitoCogito 3y ago
Honestly I think at this point supporting Taiwan's defense is more important. The entire world could be unified in officially acknowledging the ROC, but it is military and economics that deter any Chinese invasion. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that the world should be less duplicitous and honestly acknowledge the ROC, but that alone won't really be much protection for Taiwan.