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If you read the history of the conflict, Palestine only exists today because Israel gave them land that they (Israel) won from wars that neighboring countries s

If you read the history of the conflict, Palestine only exists today because Israel gave them land that they (Israel) won from wars that neighboring countries started. Additionally, Israel called dibs first, that is Palestinian/Arabs could have declared themselves a country as soon as the British mandate ended but chose not to. Instead Israel did first and was attacked by neighboring countries which caused the majority of the Palestinian diaspora.

cool_dude85 3y ago
>Palestine only exists today because Israel gave them land that they (Israel) won from wars that neighboring countries started. The internationally accepted borders of Israel are based on the 1949 armistice. Israel did not "give" Gaza or the West Bank to Palestine, those are simply the borders. Israel started the 6-day war in 1967 that led to the present occupation.
- practicemaths 3y ago
  That's inaccurate. Egypt was shutting down Straits of Tiran which started the war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straits_of_Tiran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straits_of_Tiran
  - cool_dude85 3y ago
    Closing the straits is not a reasonable justification for war. Would Cuba be justified in invading or bombing the US under your rationale?
    - practicemaths 3y ago
      U.S. invaded Panama in the 80's....
      - cool_dude85 3y ago
        Won't see me supporting it.
        practicemaths 3y ago
        Your support or not support isn't a factor with regarding who started what war over what reason though.
        cool_dude85 3y ago
        Certainly so. Just to say that the fact that the US did something similar does not make it a justifiable cause for war.
        practicemaths 3y ago
        Justifiable isn't what's being debated here though. That's a moral judgement and subjective to each individual. You said "Israel started the 6-day war in 1967 that led to the present occupation." Which I said was inaccurate due to the fact that Egypt shutdown the Strait of Tiran to Israel. Egypt started the war.

cool_dude85 3y ago

>Palestine only exists today because Israel gave them land that they (Israel) won from wars that neighboring countries started. The internationally accepted borders of Israel are based on the 1949 armistice. Israel did not "give" Gaza or the West Bank to Palestine, those are simply the borders. Israel started the 6-day war in 1967 that led to the present occupation.

practicemaths 3y ago
That's inaccurate. Egypt was shutting down Straits of Tiran which started the war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straits_of_Tiran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straits_of_Tiran
- cool_dude85 3y ago
  Closing the straits is not a reasonable justification for war. Would Cuba be justified in invading or bombing the US under your rationale?
  - practicemaths 3y ago
    U.S. invaded Panama in the 80's....
    - cool_dude85 3y ago
      Won't see me supporting it.
      - practicemaths 3y ago
        Your support or not support isn't a factor with regarding who started what war over what reason though.
        cool_dude85 3y ago
        Certainly so. Just to say that the fact that the US did something similar does not make it a justifiable cause for war.
        practicemaths 3y ago
        Justifiable isn't what's being debated here though. That's a moral judgement and subjective to each individual. You said "Israel started the 6-day war in 1967 that led to the present occupation." Which I said was inaccurate due to the fact that Egypt shutdown the Strait of Tiran to Israel. Egypt started the war.