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Your ChatGPT comment is a perfect description of Villeneuve’s movies and I’ve thought similar things for a long time. There’s just something missing that preven

Your ChatGPT comment is a perfect description of Villeneuve’s movies and I’ve thought similar things for a long time. There’s just something missing that prevents them from being great.

low_tech_love 3y ago
It’s a real shame, because he is technically brilliant. Blade Runner 2049 is one of the most beautifully shot/edited movies I’ve ever seen, but it just cannot reach me beyond the surface. If you’re interested in seeing him put his skills to tell an actual impactful story, watch Incendies. By far his best movie.
- indigodaddy 3y ago
  Also Prisoners and Enemy were impactful imo (and Sicario of course). I feel like where Villeneuve fails in that respect, filmmakers such as Nicholas Winding Refn succeed— I just watched Drive for the first time (I know I know), and it was one of the best cinematic experiences I’ve had in probably 5 years. Even though the film had a bit of a distant, hands-off quality, one connected with the film and characters completely (a lot of that maybe had to do with Gosling’s impeccable performance, but I’m sure the director had something to do with it).
  - low_tech_love 3y ago
    I agree that Enemy, Sicario, and Prisoner are very good movies, not among my favorites but certainly much better than his newer stuff. About Gosling I’ll refrain from commenting as it can get ugly. :)
    - throw0101d 3y ago
      > About Gosling I’ll refrain from commenting as it can get ugly. :) I think it's fair to say that any particular performance of Gosling may be good/er or bad/er, but his broad range is impressive: The Notebook, Half Nelson, Lars and the Real Girl, Blue Valentine, The Place Beyond the Pines, Only God Forgives, The Big Short, The Nice Guys, La La Land, Barbie. Also: Crazy, Stupid, Love and Drive came out in the same year.
      - low_tech_love 3y ago
        He was outstanding in The Big Short, I'll give him that. And his casting in BR2049 was the perfect choice; all he had to do to act like a robot was to act as usual...
wrsh07 3y ago
Whenever I feel like something is more fan service than contributing something original, I use a couple of mental models: pilgrim vs tourist But also canon vs fan fiction Do you think villaneuve's dune is more fan service / tourism? Is it adding anything new to the world of dune? (As much as I enjoyed it and want the answer to be "yes it's adding something," I'm worried the answer is no)
- low_tech_love 3y ago
  For me it's fan service, but there must be more to it that I'm missing. Apparently it made nearly half a billion dollars over a budget of 165 million, so it cannot be just hardcore sci-fi fans. Chances are it's simply not my cup of tea, or not the cup of tea of a few people who value other kinds of experience on movies. I have a cousin who loves the movie and he says that the cinema experience is amazing, the images and sounds and the whole thing kinda pulls you in. Maybe that's just it: technical quality.

Your ChatGPT comment is a perfect description of Villeneuve’s movies and I’ve thought similar things for a long time. There’s just something missing that prevents them from being great.

low_tech_love 3y ago

It’s a real shame, because he is technically brilliant. Blade Runner 2049 is one of the most beautifully shot/edited movies I’ve ever seen, but it just cannot reach me beyond the surface. If you’re interested in seeing him put his skills to tell an actual impactful story, watch Incendies. By far his best movie.

indigodaddy 3y ago
Also Prisoners and Enemy were impactful imo (and Sicario of course). I feel like where Villeneuve fails in that respect, filmmakers such as Nicholas Winding Refn succeed— I just watched Drive for the first time (I know I know), and it was one of the best cinematic experiences I’ve had in probably 5 years. Even though the film had a bit of a distant, hands-off quality, one connected with the film and characters completely (a lot of that maybe had to do with Gosling’s impeccable performance, but I’m sure the director had something to do with it).
- low_tech_love 3y ago
  I agree that Enemy, Sicario, and Prisoner are very good movies, not among my favorites but certainly much better than his newer stuff. About Gosling I’ll refrain from commenting as it can get ugly. :)
  - throw0101d 3y ago
    > About Gosling I’ll refrain from commenting as it can get ugly. :) I think it's fair to say that any particular performance of Gosling may be good/er or bad/er, but his broad range is impressive: The Notebook, Half Nelson, Lars and the Real Girl, Blue Valentine, The Place Beyond the Pines, Only God Forgives, The Big Short, The Nice Guys, La La Land, Barbie. Also: Crazy, Stupid, Love and Drive came out in the same year.
    - low_tech_love 3y ago
      He was outstanding in The Big Short, I'll give him that. And his casting in BR2049 was the perfect choice; all he had to do to act like a robot was to act as usual...

wrsh07 3y ago

Whenever I feel like something is more fan service than contributing something original, I use a couple of mental models: pilgrim vs tourist But also canon vs fan fiction Do you think villaneuve's dune is more fan service / tourism? Is it adding anything new to the world of dune? (As much as I enjoyed it and want the answer to be "yes it's adding something," I'm worried the answer is no)

low_tech_love 3y ago
For me it's fan service, but there must be more to it that I'm missing. Apparently it made nearly half a billion dollars over a budget of 165 million, so it cannot be just hardcore sci-fi fans. Chances are it's simply not my cup of tea, or not the cup of tea of a few people who value other kinds of experience on movies. I have a cousin who loves the movie and he says that the cinema experience is amazing, the images and sounds and the whole thing kinda pulls you in. Maybe that's just it: technical quality.