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Thanks, but I wasn't asking about base pay, that's pretty much fixed depending on which level you end up hired at. I was asking about Total Comp given this is a

Thanks, but I wasn't asking about base pay, that's pretty much fixed depending on which level you end up hired at. I was asking about Total Comp given this is a very niche space and serious talent with experience usually commands significant TC and I was wondering how far Apple goes to attract such talent (especially given the current state of the industry, with layoffs and all).

sgerenser 3y ago
I doubt they’re offering any more for this position than other software engineering positions at a similar level. You can roughly double the base salary number to get TC including stock and bonus. If Chris Lattner decides he wants to return to Apple they might make an exception though.
- astrange 3y ago
  The TC is just as tied to the level as the salary is. If someone wants to pay you much more, they'd make you a different level.
- saagarjha 3y ago
  At this level it’s probably closer to 1.5x.
saagarjha 3y ago
Apple doesn’t usually offer significant extra compensation for specialized roles like these.
- aworks 3y ago
  I hired compiler engineers among others during my career at multiple companies in Silicon Valley. I usually managed to get extra compensation but not always. It's a small pool of developers. Eventually, we hired mostly in other countries.
d3w4s9 3y ago
Go to levels.fyi, search Apple, then look for salary that is for a similar position and has a similar base. That's a starting point. The base does have a quite wide range, I assume that's the range for a few different levels. Still, you are roughly looking at a TC starting from $230k all the way up to $400k and more. "Niche space and serious talent" doesn't necessarily translate to higher levels or salary in a company. It all comes down to how much resource an organization has. (I wish my employer actually understood how "valuable" I am and that I achieved things very few in my company could do, but I am not betting on that or the company.) All other comments here are useless and a waste of your time.
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- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  Serious talent (i.e. desired by many buyers) translates to higher pay, especially for buyers with huge amounts of resources like Apple. If the talent is too niche, however, the buyer might lowball the seller because they predict the seller will not be able to find a better offer.
  - geodel 3y ago
    Huge amount of resource can also mean they can wait for talent for right price. They'd rather have 20 engineers for right price than 4 superstars demanding 40% increase every year else threatening to leave.
oldpersonintx 3y ago
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geodel 3y ago
It is niche skills with niche demand and only niche companies have jobs for it. For people really looking to make money maybe moving to Salesforce CRM consulting can pay more.

sgerenser 3y ago

I doubt they’re offering any more for this position than other software engineering positions at a similar level. You can roughly double the base salary number to get TC including stock and bonus. If Chris Lattner decides he wants to return to Apple they might make an exception though.

astrange 3y ago
The TC is just as tied to the level as the salary is. If someone wants to pay you much more, they'd make you a different level.
saagarjha 3y ago
At this level it’s probably closer to 1.5x.

saagarjha 3y ago

Apple doesn’t usually offer significant extra compensation for specialized roles like these.

aworks 3y ago
I hired compiler engineers among others during my career at multiple companies in Silicon Valley. I usually managed to get extra compensation but not always. It's a small pool of developers. Eventually, we hired mostly in other countries.

d3w4s9 3y ago

Go to levels.fyi, search Apple, then look for salary that is for a similar position and has a similar base. That's a starting point. The base does have a quite wide range, I assume that's the range for a few different levels. Still, you are roughly looking at a TC starting from $230k all the way up to $400k and more. "Niche space and serious talent" doesn't necessarily translate to higher levels or salary in a company. It all comes down to how much resource an organization has. (I wish my employer actually understood how "valuable" I am and that I achieved things very few in my company could do, but I am not betting on that or the company.) All other comments here are useless and a waste of your time.

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lotsofpulp 3y ago
Serious talent (i.e. desired by many buyers) translates to higher pay, especially for buyers with huge amounts of resources like Apple. If the talent is too niche, however, the buyer might lowball the seller because they predict the seller will not be able to find a better offer.
- geodel 3y ago
  Huge amount of resource can also mean they can wait for talent for right price. They'd rather have 20 engineers for right price than 4 superstars demanding 40% increase every year else threatening to leave.

oldpersonintx 3y ago

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geodel 3y ago

It is niche skills with niche demand and only niche companies have jobs for it. For people really looking to make money maybe moving to Salesforce CRM consulting can pay more.