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For arrivals, SFO has signs that direct passengers to a designated rideshare pickup area, and the rideshare apps direct passengers to a designated stall. It wo

For arrivals, SFO has signs that direct passengers to a designated rideshare pickup area, and the rideshare apps direct passengers to a designated stall. It would be possible to monitor how many cars are picking up passengers there with cameras, because non-rideshare cars would not pick up people there. It would also be possible for an auditor to spot-check with the Uber app and see if they get charged the fee or not, and whether the app directs them to the rideshare pick up area. From there it’s easy to see if a company is circumventing the surcharge.

thaumasiotes 3y ago
> and the rideshare apps direct passengers to a designated stall. That's part of their voluntary cooperation. They could also direct passengers to go stand at the curb like everyone else.
- CPLX 3y ago
  That would be illegal. This isn’t voluntary, it’s regulation.
  - quickthrower2 3y ago
    Like taxi medallions?
    - CPLX 3y ago
      Yes like that. Also notable, the airlines pay for the gates and the landing slots and so on. It’s a transportation hub. The various forms of transportation that use it pay a fee.
      - skeeter2020 3y ago
        and every single passenger also pays an extra fee unrelated to the actual act of travel, the airport improvement fee, aka a tax that's not a tax.
        CPLX 3y ago
        If it’s a fee that’s only charged to passengers who are traveling then it’s related to the act of travel.
      - quickthrower2 3y ago
        My point is: you are right but Uber has been known to skirt the law.
- javawizard 3y ago
  As others have commented, it would be relatively simple for airports to deploy ANPR[0] to detect cars picking up passengers at the curb more frequently than an average person would be expected to, at which point they have the usual trespassing remedies at their disposal. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number-plate_recognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number-plate_recogni...
  - fallingknife 3y ago
    Aren't they public roads at the airport?
    - khuey 3y ago
      They're owned by the airport and there are restrictions on their use.

thaumasiotes 3y ago

> and the rideshare apps direct passengers to a designated stall. That's part of their voluntary cooperation. They could also direct passengers to go stand at the curb like everyone else.

CPLX 3y ago
That would be illegal. This isn’t voluntary, it’s regulation.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  Like taxi medallions?
  - CPLX 3y ago
    Yes like that. Also notable, the airlines pay for the gates and the landing slots and so on. It’s a transportation hub. The various forms of transportation that use it pay a fee.
    - skeeter2020 3y ago
      and every single passenger also pays an extra fee unrelated to the actual act of travel, the airport improvement fee, aka a tax that's not a tax.
      - CPLX 3y ago
        If it’s a fee that’s only charged to passengers who are traveling then it’s related to the act of travel.
    - quickthrower2 3y ago
      My point is: you are right but Uber has been known to skirt the law.
javawizard 3y ago
As others have commented, it would be relatively simple for airports to deploy ANPR[0] to detect cars picking up passengers at the curb more frequently than an average person would be expected to, at which point they have the usual trespassing remedies at their disposal. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number-plate_recognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number-plate_recogni...
- fallingknife 3y ago
  Aren't they public roads at the airport?
  - khuey 3y ago
    They're owned by the airport and there are restrictions on their use.