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I just did MDMA 3 times in my life with controlled dose and environment. I don't recommend drug use. When I first tried it I just realized alcohol is not fun.

by taopai 3y ago

I just did MDMA 3 times in my life with controlled dose and environment. I don't recommend drug use. When I first tried it I just realized alcohol is not fun. In fact is a shitty drug. We think we are having a good time because everybody drinks, and that's what you do, and it's so tied to our social life. But If we hang out more, and didn't used like a social crutch we'll surely have the same or more fun. Lately I found that coffee make's me much more fun than some beers, I am very sensitive to coffee. I have a BLAST, and also people around me, while with +4 beers I laugh a little but I become kind of numbed, lazy funny, as I say. I hope this is not off topic. But when talking about alcohol I think that the problem is how it's seen socially.

bowsamic 3y ago
It really depends on the person. I’m like you to a degree (though it depends what I’m doing) but I know people who literally get energised the more alcohol they drink. Friends ordering a huge round of drinks at 4am just as the bar is closing, etc. I’ve also had times on alcohol which were pretty euphoric and not that far from MDMA. Also we have to consider what it does to sex, which is quite amazing. Alcohol is a delicate balancing act though. For example, if I’m in a good mood and we’re doing something reasonably active it’s amazing, but if I’m just drinking on the sofa I just become more lethargic.
mettamage 3y ago
Matcha is my favorite work drug. Caffeine is one of my favorite party drugs, especially a Club Mate (or 6, over the whole night from 11 PM to 7 AM in the morning) does the trick. The Wim Hof Method is also an amazing drug (adrenaline). It's all drugs. This just happens to be legal. Alcohol sucks. Weed isn't great. Truffles (wherever legal), meh, over it. n = 1, my experience Meditation does a lot to me. It doen't to others. Aka everyone is different. I don't recommend drugs either. If you do, make sure you do it at a decriminalized place at least. For me though, every decriminalized thing I've tried has been really helpful. One time I almost wanted to commit suicide (second psilocybin trip), so to say it's not for the faint of heart is a euphenistic understatement. Even that trip showed me I was in a very toxic relationship. To get a life scare was the right response, I'd have gone that way sober as well, what psilocybin did in a day would've taken years when sober (speaking from experience unfortunately). I have parents, who used to be both addicts. I didn't inherit their addiction, it seems. I do have their genes. It makes me hypothesize that genetic inheritability is less of a factor. I've not been raised by them and because of it my socio-economic-status is completely different. Though, if I look at social media, I'd argue that is my addiction. I think starting late (even with alcohol) and getting a university education really helps. It also helps my social circle is scared of any form of drugs (other than caffeine) and it's hard for me to find a good setting. I'm in favor of drug legalization over 30. Wim Hof, meditation, music, running, dancing, dreaming, lucid dreaming (dream journal!) and being sleep deprived Those are all good analogues for any form of drugs. I'm playing around with starting a startup over this and contributing the money towards comparative research between these states of consciousness versus actual drug states. Feel free to email if you're up for talking about that.
- echelon_musk 3y ago
  It was interesting for me to see lucid dreaming and meditation mentioned as I recently finished Alan Wallace's Dreaming Yourself Awake. I have been integrating this quote from Stephen LaBerge: “Dream consciousness is waking consciousness without physical constraints. Waking consciousness is dream consciousness with physical constraints.”
- taopai 3y ago
  Great comment. I agree. Dream journal can be pretty wild, after a couple of days I can remember like 5 dreams every night, until I have to stop because It's a lot and it's very intense. Pretty awesome. I would also add hypnosis, self-hypnosis (or also known as non-deceptive mega-placebo). Can be awesome.
- voisin 3y ago
  > Truffles (wherever legal) Is this a slang term for a drug or are there places where truffles are illegal? I’ve never come across this.
  - quchen 3y ago
    "Truffles" usually means sclerotia of magic mushrooms. They're a different growth pattern of the same organism, but for example in the Netherlands, the fruiting bodies (what people commonly mistake for "the fungus") are forbidden, but the sclerotia are allowed.
    - voisin 3y ago
      Thank you
grumpyprole 3y ago
It all depends on what sort of party you want. Sharing whisky around a fire with some old friends is a great way to relax.
jakderrida 3y ago
It really depends on how your body and mind react to the drug. While I can consume and deal with large amounts of LSD, I can't take a single Wellbutrin without freaking out. Couple hits of weed is same way to a lesser extent. As far as Xanax, all I remember is passing out and waking up feeling like someone beat me with a hammer all night. Amphetamines, I can't get enough of. Coke, never tried it because it sounds like everything I'd love too much. Different minds and bodies react differently.

by taopai 3y ago

bowsamic 3y ago

It really depends on the person. I’m like you to a degree (though it depends what I’m doing) but I know people who literally get energised the more alcohol they drink. Friends ordering a huge round of drinks at 4am just as the bar is closing, etc. I’ve also had times on alcohol which were pretty euphoric and not that far from MDMA. Also we have to consider what it does to sex, which is quite amazing. Alcohol is a delicate balancing act though. For example, if I’m in a good mood and we’re doing something reasonably active it’s amazing, but if I’m just drinking on the sofa I just become more lethargic.

mettamage 3y ago

Matcha is my favorite work drug. Caffeine is one of my favorite party drugs, especially a Club Mate (or 6, over the whole night from 11 PM to 7 AM in the morning) does the trick. The Wim Hof Method is also an amazing drug (adrenaline). It's all drugs. This just happens to be legal. Alcohol sucks. Weed isn't great. Truffles (wherever legal), meh, over it. n = 1, my experience Meditation does a lot to me. It doen't to others. Aka everyone is different. I don't recommend drugs either. If you do, make sure you do it at a decriminalized place at least. For me though, every decriminalized thing I've tried has been really helpful. One time I almost wanted to commit suicide (second psilocybin trip), so to say it's not for the faint of heart is a euphenistic understatement. Even that trip showed me I was in a very toxic relationship. To get a life scare was the right response, I'd have gone that way sober as well, what psilocybin did in a day would've taken years when sober (speaking from experience unfortunately). I have parents, who used to be both addicts. I didn't inherit their addiction, it seems. I do have their genes. It makes me hypothesize that genetic inheritability is less of a factor. I've not been raised by them and because of it my socio-economic-status is completely different. Though, if I look at social media, I'd argue that is my addiction. I think starting late (even with alcohol) and getting a university education really helps. It also helps my social circle is scared of any form of drugs (other than caffeine) and it's hard for me to find a good setting. I'm in favor of drug legalization over 30. Wim Hof, meditation, music, running, dancing, dreaming, lucid dreaming (dream journal!) and being sleep deprived Those are all good analogues for any form of drugs. I'm playing around with starting a startup over this and contributing the money towards comparative research between these states of consciousness versus actual drug states. Feel free to email if you're up for talking about that.

echelon_musk 3y ago
It was interesting for me to see lucid dreaming and meditation mentioned as I recently finished Alan Wallace's Dreaming Yourself Awake. I have been integrating this quote from Stephen LaBerge: “Dream consciousness is waking consciousness without physical constraints. Waking consciousness is dream consciousness with physical constraints.”
taopai 3y ago
Great comment. I agree. Dream journal can be pretty wild, after a couple of days I can remember like 5 dreams every night, until I have to stop because It's a lot and it's very intense. Pretty awesome. I would also add hypnosis, self-hypnosis (or also known as non-deceptive mega-placebo). Can be awesome.
voisin 3y ago
> Truffles (wherever legal) Is this a slang term for a drug or are there places where truffles are illegal? I’ve never come across this.
- quchen 3y ago
  "Truffles" usually means sclerotia of magic mushrooms. They're a different growth pattern of the same organism, but for example in the Netherlands, the fruiting bodies (what people commonly mistake for "the fungus") are forbidden, but the sclerotia are allowed.
  - voisin 3y ago
    Thank you

grumpyprole 3y ago

It all depends on what sort of party you want. Sharing whisky around a fire with some old friends is a great way to relax.

jakderrida 3y ago

It really depends on how your body and mind react to the drug. While I can consume and deal with large amounts of LSD, I can't take a single Wellbutrin without freaking out. Couple hits of weed is same way to a lesser extent. As far as Xanax, all I remember is passing out and waking up feeling like someone beat me with a hammer all night. Amphetamines, I can't get enough of. Coke, never tried it because it sounds like everything I'd love too much. Different minds and bodies react differently.