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>computers with little RAM have to swap this data to the hard drive The hard drive? What machine is sold with a hard drive as swap in 2024?

Cheer2171 3y ago
Go to Walmart.com, desktop computer category, sort by low price. Many have HDDs. My parents do the analog version of this for appliances, and if I gave them the task of buying a desktop computer, they would probably buy one like this with a HDD. The surprising thing is that you can buy a desktop computer (but no monitor) for less than a day of minimum wage in California. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Restored-Dell-Optiplex-790-Desktop-PC-Intel-Core-i5-2400-Processor-4GB-Memory-500GB-Hard-Drive-Windows-10-Pro-Monitor-Not-Included-Refurbished/46605849 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Restored-Dell-Optiplex-790-Deskto...
- Ekaros 3y ago
  It is not that surprising when the computer is actually over decade old... i5-2400 released in Q1 2011. What I find more surprising is that there is any margins in selling those sort of computers. Enough to actually reliably profit.
  - gorlilla 3y ago
    It's because they're off-lease trash that they hobble back together with used HDDs and used RAM. They target low-income; budget conscious/frugal; elderly and those otherwise ignorant of the scam. Backed by a 30-day return policy! I get these types of machines (actually somewhat newer i5/i7 11th gen+) from an Amazon returns auction house for $5-$20/ea and they invariably have mismatched ram in them and HDDs with 50-70K hours on them already. They also typically won't boot because of a faulty ram stick 9r failed HDD. That being said, I also have 4 kids and those machines have served well as 'starter' systems. They get to upgrade the PSU, HDD-->SSD, GPU and max out the ram on a shoestring budget. Between a local MicroCtr and /r/homelabsales ... They get to build out performant systems for $300-$600 total. I also consider this to be a much greater investment than just throwing a console at them. Profits or not for them; we found some profit in their waste stream.

Cheer2171 3y ago

Go to Walmart.com, desktop computer category, sort by low price. Many have HDDs. My parents do the analog version of this for appliances, and if I gave them the task of buying a desktop computer, they would probably buy one like this with a HDD. The surprising thing is that you can buy a desktop computer (but no monitor) for less than a day of minimum wage in California. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Restored-Dell-Optiplex-790-Desktop-PC-Intel-Core-i5-2400-Processor-4GB-Memory-500GB-Hard-Drive-Windows-10-Pro-Monitor-Not-Included-Refurbished/46605849 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Restored-Dell-Optiplex-790-Deskto...

Ekaros 3y ago
It is not that surprising when the computer is actually over decade old... i5-2400 released in Q1 2011. What I find more surprising is that there is any margins in selling those sort of computers. Enough to actually reliably profit.
- gorlilla 3y ago
  It's because they're off-lease trash that they hobble back together with used HDDs and used RAM. They target low-income; budget conscious/frugal; elderly and those otherwise ignorant of the scam. Backed by a 30-day return policy! I get these types of machines (actually somewhat newer i5/i7 11th gen+) from an Amazon returns auction house for $5-$20/ea and they invariably have mismatched ram in them and HDDs with 50-70K hours on them already. They also typically won't boot because of a faulty ram stick 9r failed HDD. That being said, I also have 4 kids and those machines have served well as 'starter' systems. They get to upgrade the PSU, HDD-->SSD, GPU and max out the ram on a shoestring budget. Between a local MicroCtr and /r/homelabsales ... They get to build out performant systems for $300-$600 total. I also consider this to be a much greater investment than just throwing a console at them. Profits or not for them; we found some profit in their waste stream.