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> I don't know any engineers who would characterize the world as being simply defined by "a few simple formulae" I'm an electrical engineer. The Standard Model

> I don't know any engineers who would characterize the world as being simply defined by "a few simple formulae" I'm an electrical engineer. The Standard Model of particle physics governs literally all of existence, minus gravity, and it can fit on a single page [1]. Gravity is another few equations that can also squeeze onto that same page. This is a set of fairly simple formulae compared to the unbelievable complexity of existence. A universal Turing machine can compute any computable function and it's description is even shorter. In other words, unimaginable complexity can follow from "a few simple formulae". I don't know many engineers that would dispute this. Your problem is that you have some conception of "simple" that does not match what rationalists mean. [1] https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/sites/default/files/images/standard/sml.png https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/sites/default/files/images/...

mistermann 3y ago
> The Standard Model of particle physics governs literally all of existence, minus gravity, and it can fit on a single page [1]. Gravity is another few equations that can also squeeze onto that same page. This is a set of fairly simple formulae compared to the unbelievable complexity of existence. Can this model explain why we have yet another war in the middle east (which is part of existence), and also why education in certain fields seems to decrease one's curiosity in the cause of such events and whether they can be reduced or eliminated? Maybe gravity isn't the only thing missing from the model... If there was something else missing, is there anything contained within the model that would allow one to detect such a situation, or at least think about the possibility?