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Because anti-wind activists have brought them up.

jiggawatts 3y ago
More specifically, it's a disingenuous argument brought up by oil lobbyists. It's directly comparable to gun nuts justifying their right to own weapons designed to murder people by claiming that it's for "protection". Those same people have zero interest in better door locks, stronger windows, or anything that would actually protect them. They just want the guns. The protection argument was never made in good faith, it's an excuse at best. The "wind generators kill birds" argument is the same type of thing, typically made by people that would cheerfully feed every native bird they can into a grinder and sell the pulp for a profit if they could.
- ithkuil 3y ago
  Except Bald Eagles.
- ThunderSizzle 3y ago
  > It's directly comparable to gun nuts justifying their right to own weapons designed to murder people by claiming that it's for "protection". Those same people have zero interest in better door locks, stronger windows, or anything that would actually protect them. Ah, it's your fault for being robbed or mugged, and killed in the process - you should've just had a better lock or not go downtown for a show. In fact, we should victim-blame more often - we should just tell rape victims they should've had more clothes - you were asking for it after all. Probably should tell convenience store clerks to get a different job. We should tell police officers that they don't need guns to stop criminals with guns.
  - MeImCounting 3y ago
    Well cops definitely shouldnt have guns but everything else I agree with.
    - ThunderSizzle 3y ago
      Nice to know that people who are endangered by others deserve their danger.
      - MeImCounting 3y ago
        Ehhh I will never see a scenario where it is right for a cop to shoot or kill someone. There is a reason the courts exist. Did robocop teach you nothing? It is messed up to give some street bully the authority of judge jury and executioner.
        ThunderSizzle 3y ago
        I'm talking about victims who could've self-defended. Either way, you want those people to be defenseless, and the people who are supposed to defend them to also be defenseless. Who do you want to stop evil actions? Or does evil simply not exist?
        MeImCounting 3y ago
        I think maybe you misunderstood. I am pro guns. Everyone should have guns. Except cops. Cops should not have guns. Cops represent the legal system and by giving them guns we are giving them the capacity to be judge jury and executioner. That is wrong. That circumvents the entire legal system.

More specifically, it's a disingenuous argument brought up by oil lobbyists. It's directly comparable to gun nuts justifying their right to own weapons designed to murder people by claiming that it's for "protection". Those same people have zero interest in better door locks, stronger windows, or anything that would actually protect them. They just want the guns. The protection argument was never made in good faith, it's an excuse at best. The "wind generators kill birds" argument is the same type of thing, typically made by people that would cheerfully feed every native bird they can into a grinder and sell the pulp for a profit if they could.

ithkuil 3y ago
Except Bald Eagles.
ThunderSizzle 3y ago
> It's directly comparable to gun nuts justifying their right to own weapons designed to murder people by claiming that it's for "protection". Those same people have zero interest in better door locks, stronger windows, or anything that would actually protect them. Ah, it's your fault for being robbed or mugged, and killed in the process - you should've just had a better lock or not go downtown for a show. In fact, we should victim-blame more often - we should just tell rape victims they should've had more clothes - you were asking for it after all. Probably should tell convenience store clerks to get a different job. We should tell police officers that they don't need guns to stop criminals with guns.
- MeImCounting 3y ago
  Well cops definitely shouldnt have guns but everything else I agree with.
  - ThunderSizzle 3y ago
    Nice to know that people who are endangered by others deserve their danger.
    - MeImCounting 3y ago
      Ehhh I will never see a scenario where it is right for a cop to shoot or kill someone. There is a reason the courts exist. Did robocop teach you nothing? It is messed up to give some street bully the authority of judge jury and executioner.
      - ThunderSizzle 3y ago
        I'm talking about victims who could've self-defended. Either way, you want those people to be defenseless, and the people who are supposed to defend them to also be defenseless. Who do you want to stop evil actions? Or does evil simply not exist?
        MeImCounting 3y ago
        I think maybe you misunderstood. I am pro guns. Everyone should have guns. Except cops. Cops should not have guns. Cops represent the legal system and by giving them guns we are giving them the capacity to be judge jury and executioner. That is wrong. That circumvents the entire legal system.