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To be fair, there's no precedent for any network the size or scale of Facebook's. It's not really just a site, it's a world. And the Facebook identity now exte

To be fair, there's no precedent for any network the size or scale of Facebook's. It's not really just a site, it's a world. And the Facebook identity now extends beyond the walled garden. With Facebook Authentification, it's more like our online passport. The world is pretty locked in.

gurkendoktor 14y ago
> And the Facebook identity now extends beyond the walled garden. With Facebook Authentification, it's more like our online passport. I can't remember any website that _required_ Facebook to log in, except maybe weekend hacks were other login methods were added later one. The online world may still have some freedom :)
- superted 14y ago
  Spotify comes to mind. Not a website though.
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- AVTizzle 14y ago
  Like superted mentioned - Spotify is one example. There's plenty more. A friend of mine is building LikeBright.com - it's a unique concept for a dating app that exists as a layer on top of the Facebook. FB auth is obviously a huge part of Facebook's extension beyond their walled garden, but there's plenty more examples. The fan-page widgets for social proof, Facebook Comments for publishers, and like-buttons are all areas of integration that solidify Facebook's lead. It's not just a site, and it's growing into being more than just a platform. Already, Facebook's certainly beyond anything any historical precedents have set before.
mkramlich 14y ago
BBS's, Usenet, AOL, CompuServe, Yahoo, LiveJournal, MySpace, Friendster... I think there's a history there where certain social/discussion/sharing sites/systems are popular, for a while, they peak, then the next cooler thing comes along and the masses move on. Yes Facebook has hit the highest peak to date. But that doesn't mean it will last. When Zuck started it was the small cool elite site for Hardvardies. Now there's a lot of Moms and Uncle Bobs on there, the masses, dorks, rednecks, coworkers, bosses, and precisely because Facebook has violated user's trust a few times, and spread it's Auth system and Like buttons everywhere, a growing sense of distrust and avoidance towards it, precisely because you don't want Facebook knowing everything you do, or risk having the Moms and Uncle Bobs find out, coworkers, bosses, etc. Popularity is a double-edged sword: if you get it virally over just a few years you can lose it virally just as well. Now I do think Instagram was massively overvalued based purely on objective evidence to date. But I do understand how Zuck could fear it, based on future possibilities, and priced it based on fear. He knows how quickly Facebook's success came to him. He knows how quickly it might have come to Instagram. And arguably, past a billion or two in the bank, it's all just play money.
kamweti 14y ago
i read this and can't help but feel proud of people who dont have a fb account by choice.almost like the few who never got 'locked in'

gurkendoktor 14y ago

> And the Facebook identity now extends beyond the walled garden. With Facebook Authentification, it's more like our online passport. I can't remember any website that _required_ Facebook to log in, except maybe weekend hacks were other login methods were added later one. The online world may still have some freedom :)

superted 14y ago
Spotify comes to mind. Not a website though.
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AVTizzle 14y ago
Like superted mentioned - Spotify is one example. There's plenty more. A friend of mine is building LikeBright.com - it's a unique concept for a dating app that exists as a layer on top of the Facebook. FB auth is obviously a huge part of Facebook's extension beyond their walled garden, but there's plenty more examples. The fan-page widgets for social proof, Facebook Comments for publishers, and like-buttons are all areas of integration that solidify Facebook's lead. It's not just a site, and it's growing into being more than just a platform. Already, Facebook's certainly beyond anything any historical precedents have set before.

mkramlich 14y ago

BBS's, Usenet, AOL, CompuServe, Yahoo, LiveJournal, MySpace, Friendster... I think there's a history there where certain social/discussion/sharing sites/systems are popular, for a while, they peak, then the next cooler thing comes along and the masses move on. Yes Facebook has hit the highest peak to date. But that doesn't mean it will last. When Zuck started it was the small cool elite site for Hardvardies. Now there's a lot of Moms and Uncle Bobs on there, the masses, dorks, rednecks, coworkers, bosses, and precisely because Facebook has violated user's trust a few times, and spread it's Auth system and Like buttons everywhere, a growing sense of distrust and avoidance towards it, precisely because you don't want Facebook knowing everything you do, or risk having the Moms and Uncle Bobs find out, coworkers, bosses, etc. Popularity is a double-edged sword: if you get it virally over just a few years you can lose it virally just as well. Now I do think Instagram was massively overvalued based purely on objective evidence to date. But I do understand how Zuck could fear it, based on future possibilities, and priced it based on fear. He knows how quickly Facebook's success came to him. He knows how quickly it might have come to Instagram. And arguably, past a billion or two in the bank, it's all just play money.

kamweti 14y ago

i read this and can't help but feel proud of people who dont have a fb account by choice.almost like the few who never got 'locked in'