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> Creationism was nice and neat and logical Also requires less faith

by 0xdeadbeefbabe 3y ago

stuaxo 3y ago
How?
- peteradio 3y ago
  God exists or he doesn't, 50/50 chance.
nineplay 3y ago
To some degree the idea of a Creator is easier to wrap one's head around than the idea of nothing-->something. Of course it really just rolls the question uphill since you're now faced with 'Where did the Creator come from?'. Happily there are no academic theories on this matter so there's no need to engage with it. Ultimately satisfaction doesn't come from the belief itself, satisfaction comes from the feeling of being Right while others are Wrong.
- AnimalMuppet 3y ago
  > Of course it really just rolls the question uphill since you're now faced with 'Where did the Creator come from?'. Creationists aren't actually faced with that question - not Creationists who believe in a God who is eternal, anyway. Things without beginnings don't have origins. If you want to actually attack that belief, you need to either 1) show that God isn't eternal, or 2) show that eternal things are impossible. Or you have to do the hard work of 3) persuading them that a purely naturalistic process fits the available evidence better than a Creator does.
  - nineplay 3y ago
    I'm just suggesting that Creationism requires more faith than one might think at first glance. Creationist beliefs - a Creator - things which are eternal - an Eternal Creator Whether those things are easier or harder to believe than naturalistic processes is up to the reader.
- 0xdeadbeefbabe 3y ago
  > Happily there are no academic theories on this matter Why happily? Evolution seems like a good academic theory. Is Pascal's wager academic enough? What about Occam's razor?
  - nineplay 3y ago
    To clarify, there are no academic theories about where the Creator came from. Academic research on the matter would have to pre-suppose the existences of a Creator, and so far as I know there is no research group willing to take that as given.
- naasking 3y ago
  > To some degree the idea of a Creator is easier to wrap one's head around than the idea of nothing-->something. Of course that's a mistake, because there wasn't literally nothing, there was just something else.
scotty79 3y ago
Fantasy always requires less thinking than knowledge.

> Creationism was nice and neat and logical Also requires less faith

stuaxo 3y ago

How?

peteradio 3y ago
God exists or he doesn't, 50/50 chance.

nineplay 3y ago

To some degree the idea of a Creator is easier to wrap one's head around than the idea of nothing-->something. Of course it really just rolls the question uphill since you're now faced with 'Where did the Creator come from?'. Happily there are no academic theories on this matter so there's no need to engage with it. Ultimately satisfaction doesn't come from the belief itself, satisfaction comes from the feeling of being Right while others are Wrong.

AnimalMuppet 3y ago
> Of course it really just rolls the question uphill since you're now faced with 'Where did the Creator come from?'. Creationists aren't actually faced with that question - not Creationists who believe in a God who is eternal, anyway. Things without beginnings don't have origins. If you want to actually attack that belief, you need to either 1) show that God isn't eternal, or 2) show that eternal things are impossible. Or you have to do the hard work of 3) persuading them that a purely naturalistic process fits the available evidence better than a Creator does.
- nineplay 3y ago
  I'm just suggesting that Creationism requires more faith than one might think at first glance. Creationist beliefs - a Creator - things which are eternal - an Eternal Creator Whether those things are easier or harder to believe than naturalistic processes is up to the reader.
0xdeadbeefbabe 3y ago
> Happily there are no academic theories on this matter Why happily? Evolution seems like a good academic theory. Is Pascal's wager academic enough? What about Occam's razor?
- nineplay 3y ago
  To clarify, there are no academic theories about where the Creator came from. Academic research on the matter would have to pre-suppose the existences of a Creator, and so far as I know there is no research group willing to take that as given.
naasking 3y ago
> To some degree the idea of a Creator is easier to wrap one's head around than the idea of nothing-->something. Of course that's a mistake, because there wasn't literally nothing, there was just something else.

scotty79 3y ago

Fantasy always requires less thinking than knowledge.