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Did he supply a crucial missing piece of the puzzle then?

denton-scratch 3y ago
The prosecution case was that he provided a piece of the puzzle. I have no reason to believe it was a crucial piece. I was reading his blog while all this was going on. Despite my curiosity, I was unable to get any clues about who the letter-women were. But I'm not Scottish, I'm not involved with the Scottish National Party, and I don't hang around with SNP politicians (or any politicians). Perhaps someone who mixed in those circles could have found clues; I understand that several Sottish journalists published pieces from which a knowledgeable reader could deduce who was being referred to. But I believe Murray was pretty scrupulous in avoiding violating the judge's order. I think it's obvious he was persecuted for his trenchant support of Alex Salmond.
- peterfirefly 3y ago
  That reminds me of one of the cases against Tommy Robinson (in 2018). As far as I could tell from abroad, he really didn't disclose anything that hadn't already been disclosed in traditional media. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(far-right_activist)#2018_imprisonment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(far-right_acti... And even if he did -- there is something wrong with a justice system that would let that lead to these guys going free: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang Reading the dates (years!) relevant to the case is enough to make anyone shutter -- first complaint taken seriously (allegedly) was in 2011 and the arrests didn't happen until 2017. Some cases seem to be more about politics than about the law (let alone justice). --- Do I have to say it? I probably do. I think Robinson is an idiot. A football hooligan who seems to have oppositional defiant disorder. He is also right that there is a problem with Muslim crime in the UK -- and their grooming gangs seem to be a huge problem and there has indisputably been a cover up of it.
stephen_g 3y ago
My recollection is that there was no crucial piece that was not around the same time also reported in the mass media. Why this was dismissed as apparently not being relevant as a defence was confusing (if I recall correctly, something about media being self-regulating through a professional association and blogs not being so, which doesn’t seem to matter when a reporter in the media did the exact same thing with no consequences that Murray was jailed for)

The prosecution case was that he provided a piece of the puzzle. I have no reason to believe it was a crucial piece. I was reading his blog while all this was going on. Despite my curiosity, I was unable to get any clues about who the letter-women were. But I'm not Scottish, I'm not involved with the Scottish National Party, and I don't hang around with SNP politicians (or any politicians). Perhaps someone who mixed in those circles could have found clues; I understand that several Sottish journalists published pieces from which a knowledgeable reader could deduce who was being referred to. But I believe Murray was pretty scrupulous in avoiding violating the judge's order. I think it's obvious he was persecuted for his trenchant support of Alex Salmond.

peterfirefly 3y ago
That reminds me of one of the cases against Tommy Robinson (in 2018). As far as I could tell from abroad, he really didn't disclose anything that hadn't already been disclosed in traditional media. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(far-right_activist)#2018_imprisonment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(far-right_acti... And even if he did -- there is something wrong with a justice system that would let that lead to these guys going free: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang Reading the dates (years!) relevant to the case is enough to make anyone shutter -- first complaint taken seriously (allegedly) was in 2011 and the arrests didn't happen until 2017. Some cases seem to be more about politics than about the law (let alone justice). --- Do I have to say it? I probably do. I think Robinson is an idiot. A football hooligan who seems to have oppositional defiant disorder. He is also right that there is a problem with Muslim crime in the UK -- and their grooming gangs seem to be a huge problem and there has indisputably been a cover up of it.

stephen_g 3y ago

My recollection is that there was no crucial piece that was not around the same time also reported in the mass media. Why this was dismissed as apparently not being relevant as a defence was confusing (if I recall correctly, something about media being self-regulating through a professional association and blogs not being so, which doesn’t seem to matter when a reporter in the media did the exact same thing with no consequences that Murray was jailed for)