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This is awesome. Personally I want a modern translation of Nietzsche’s books since it takes such a commitment to get through their current translations. I’m exc

This is awesome. Personally I want a modern translation of Nietzsche’s books since it takes such a commitment to get through their current translations. I’m excited for AI to get to the point where this is trivial.

hospitalJail 3y ago
I find it interesting that 'through the flow of information' I spent years on the Greeks, only after 8 years of philosophy I found modern stuff that was relevant to my interests. Nietzsche and Existentialism. Really makes me wonder if those in Power, have an interest in teaching Virtue based philosophy to intellectuals, and de-emphasizing modern stuff.
makeitshine 3y ago
Rick Roderick has a good lecture series on Nietzsche. https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA20B690583E9931C https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA20B690583E9931C
Amezarak 3y ago
I'm genuinely confused. Kaufmann and Hollingdale aren't modern translations?
- serjester 3y ago
  Take a random sentence I pulled from Kaufmann >> Verily, you who are good and just, there is much about you that is laughable, and especially your fear of that which has hitherto been called devil. Which could also be said as: >> Those of you who are good and fair, there's much about you that's funny, especially how you're scared of what's always been called the devil. The average modern english speaker would say the latter is easier to understand. I'd personally love for the entire book to be this digestable.
  - Amezarak 3y ago
    That sounds like it's from Thus Spake Zarathustra? It's translated that way intentionally, because Nietzsche wrote it to sound archaic and reminiscent of Old Testament language, on purpose, as a stylistic choice. The translators are accurately reflecting that. His version of Zarathustra is undoing the "mistake" of the original Zarathustra. You don't see this in translations of his other works, like The Gay Science or On The Genealogy of Morality, which are better introductions anyway, not being explicitly literary like Zarathustra.
mannyv 3y ago
Nietzsche in a nutshell: f*ck it, you do you.

hospitalJail 3y ago

I find it interesting that 'through the flow of information' I spent years on the Greeks, only after 8 years of philosophy I found modern stuff that was relevant to my interests. Nietzsche and Existentialism. Really makes me wonder if those in Power, have an interest in teaching Virtue based philosophy to intellectuals, and de-emphasizing modern stuff.

makeitshine 3y ago

Rick Roderick has a good lecture series on Nietzsche. https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA20B690583E9931C https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA20B690583E9931C

Amezarak 3y ago

I'm genuinely confused. Kaufmann and Hollingdale aren't modern translations?

serjester 3y ago
Take a random sentence I pulled from Kaufmann >> Verily, you who are good and just, there is much about you that is laughable, and especially your fear of that which has hitherto been called devil. Which could also be said as: >> Those of you who are good and fair, there's much about you that's funny, especially how you're scared of what's always been called the devil. The average modern english speaker would say the latter is easier to understand. I'd personally love for the entire book to be this digestable.
- Amezarak 3y ago
  That sounds like it's from Thus Spake Zarathustra? It's translated that way intentionally, because Nietzsche wrote it to sound archaic and reminiscent of Old Testament language, on purpose, as a stylistic choice. The translators are accurately reflecting that. His version of Zarathustra is undoing the "mistake" of the original Zarathustra. You don't see this in translations of his other works, like The Gay Science or On The Genealogy of Morality, which are better introductions anyway, not being explicitly literary like Zarathustra.

mannyv 3y ago

Nietzsche in a nutshell: f*ck it, you do you.