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Thanks for the summary. I'm curious why the EFF/DemandProgress would be using up the energy of their supporter base trying to tackle an empty suit of a law, if

by ericd 15y ago

Thanks for the summary. I'm curious why the EFF/DemandProgress would be using up the energy of their supporter base trying to tackle an empty suit of a law, if it is one, and why they've expressed glee at the threat of a veto. And from what I've heard about the attacks on various DoD organizations from people I know there, a sharing infrastructure to spread information about vulnerabilities quickly is probably going to be necessary soon. I really hope they're aggressively compartmentalizing those networks.

Xuzz 15y ago
I'm not sure I agree with tptacek about the donations, but one reason might be to keep up the pressure. Blocking SOPA was a big success, so having another battle soon after could be a way to both encourage their supporters as well as show their continued relevance. I'm also not going to argue that it's a bad thing: I love the EFF and donate to them, so if it helps them, I don't really have an issue.
- tptacek 15y ago
  I feel bad for wailing on the EFF about this stuff, because I used to be a fan of the EFF, but come on; their posts on CISPA cite PATRIOT, terrorism, National Security Letters, CARNIVORE, the FBI "bending or suspending the law" (begging the question: then HOW does CISPA matter?) and wait for it DRONE STRIKES. It's not enough to be right; you also have to be correct.
snowwrestler 15y ago
Fights on controversial issues create energy in the supporter base, which is why organizations pursue them.
- tptacek 15y ago
  That's a good point. I just wish they could generate energy without FUD.
- ericd 15y ago
  Maybe I'm unusual in that I have a limited number of things I'm willing to get outraged about in a given 6 month period before I start to question the people trying to stir me up. I'm under the impression that that's not terribly unusual, but I guess the popularity of Fox News is a pretty solid counterpoint.
rayiner 15y ago
Because they've got SOPA momentum right now and it's a good time to throw their weight around. I'd do the same thing in their position.

by ericd 15y ago

Xuzz 15y ago

I'm not sure I agree with tptacek about the donations, but one reason might be to keep up the pressure. Blocking SOPA was a big success, so having another battle soon after could be a way to both encourage their supporters as well as show their continued relevance. I'm also not going to argue that it's a bad thing: I love the EFF and donate to them, so if it helps them, I don't really have an issue.

tptacek 15y ago
I feel bad for wailing on the EFF about this stuff, because I used to be a fan of the EFF, but come on; their posts on CISPA cite PATRIOT, terrorism, National Security Letters, CARNIVORE, the FBI "bending or suspending the law" (begging the question: then HOW does CISPA matter?) and wait for it DRONE STRIKES. It's not enough to be right; you also have to be correct.

snowwrestler 15y ago

Fights on controversial issues create energy in the supporter base, which is why organizations pursue them.

tptacek 15y ago
That's a good point. I just wish they could generate energy without FUD.
ericd 15y ago
Maybe I'm unusual in that I have a limited number of things I'm willing to get outraged about in a given 6 month period before I start to question the people trying to stir me up. I'm under the impression that that's not terribly unusual, but I guess the popularity of Fox News is a pretty solid counterpoint.

rayiner 15y ago

Because they've got SOPA momentum right now and it's a good time to throw their weight around. I'd do the same thing in their position.