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So 2-1/2 acres plus roads, instead of 5 acres, and you address how long, which OP didn't mention, in no way disputing him. Not a basis for leading with "incredi

So 2-1/2 acres plus roads, instead of 5 acres, and you address how long, which OP didn't mention, in no way disputing him. Not a basis for leading with "incredibly false."

jeffbee 3y ago
Seriously, every hole results in an eventual dump, tank, yard, road, or some other dang thing and the net land wrecked per operation is five acres. https://maps.app.goo.gl/sKfYNokGcidWLGTQ7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/sKfYNokGcidWLGTQ7
- kapnap 3y ago
  Sheesh. That's insane. My understanding is that East California is like that too. Not sure the status as of today and if this is still permitted or not? Look up some images from LA in the early oil boom - crazy. Here's an example of them in Alberta (where I am familiar): https://maps.app.goo.gl/73x4uKZxWKbZkgD76 https://maps.app.goo.gl/73x4uKZxWKbZkgD76
  - jeffbee 3y ago
    In 2023 California almost halted drilling permits, but mainly because the governor has national office ambitions and he was starting to get some criticism from the hypocrisy of having overseen 10000+ new oil permits during his tenure.
    - kapnap 3y ago
      "Everything in moderation, including moderation" comes to mind.
- User23 3y ago
  If that were true then Los Angeles would be an uninhabitable wasteland. Jokes aside, it’s clearly not true.
- njarboe 3y ago
  Windmill farms have roads also. Traveling in Illinois recently and seeing some huge 300+ft windmills in the corn and soybean fields, I think that is a perfect place for them. The whole scene is quite artificial and totally human controlled. The windmills fit right in. I don't think they should be placed on wilderness type lands. Similar to a fracking operation, you have a dense network of roads and the moving, man-made objects are quite jarring on the landscape. And unlike oil or gas extraction those sites will likely be in use for hundreds of years instead of a few decades.
kapnap 3y ago
Perhaps you are correct - I had hectares in my mind for some reason while reading his original comment. My bad.
itsoktocry 3y ago
>So 2-1/2 acres plus roads, instead of 5 acres Just an exaggeration of 100%, no big deal?

So 2-1/2 acres plus roads, instead of 5 acres, and you address how long, which OP didn't mention, in no way disputing him. Not a basis for leading with "incredibly false."

jeffbee 3y ago

Seriously, every hole results in an eventual dump, tank, yard, road, or some other dang thing and the net land wrecked per operation is five acres. https://maps.app.goo.gl/sKfYNokGcidWLGTQ7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/sKfYNokGcidWLGTQ7

kapnap 3y ago
Sheesh. That's insane. My understanding is that East California is like that too. Not sure the status as of today and if this is still permitted or not? Look up some images from LA in the early oil boom - crazy. Here's an example of them in Alberta (where I am familiar): https://maps.app.goo.gl/73x4uKZxWKbZkgD76 https://maps.app.goo.gl/73x4uKZxWKbZkgD76
- jeffbee 3y ago
  In 2023 California almost halted drilling permits, but mainly because the governor has national office ambitions and he was starting to get some criticism from the hypocrisy of having overseen 10000+ new oil permits during his tenure.
  - kapnap 3y ago
    "Everything in moderation, including moderation" comes to mind.
User23 3y ago
If that were true then Los Angeles would be an uninhabitable wasteland. Jokes aside, it’s clearly not true.
njarboe 3y ago
Windmill farms have roads also. Traveling in Illinois recently and seeing some huge 300+ft windmills in the corn and soybean fields, I think that is a perfect place for them. The whole scene is quite artificial and totally human controlled. The windmills fit right in. I don't think they should be placed on wilderness type lands. Similar to a fracking operation, you have a dense network of roads and the moving, man-made objects are quite jarring on the landscape. And unlike oil or gas extraction those sites will likely be in use for hundreds of years instead of a few decades.

kapnap 3y ago

Perhaps you are correct - I had hectares in my mind for some reason while reading his original comment. My bad.

itsoktocry 3y ago

>So 2-1/2 acres plus roads, instead of 5 acres Just an exaggeration of 100%, no big deal?