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For someone not familiar with the acronym, what is CBE? A quick search shows me 371 different matching acronyms, ranging from the "Calgary Board of Education",

For someone not familiar with the acronym, what is CBE? A quick search shows me 371 different matching acronyms, ranging from the "Calgary Board of Education", to "current best estimate", to "Central Bank of Egypt".

Two9A 3y ago
"CBE" refers to Commander of the most excellent order of the British Empire [0] which is a title conferred by the monarch on those deemed to have performed especially well in the service of the nation. So you can see how its value might be diluted by this instance. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire
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pi-e-sigma 3y ago
Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) This is awarded for having a prominent but lesser role at national level, or a leading role at regional level. You can also get one for a distinguished, innovative contribution to any area. https://www.gov.uk/honours/types-of-honours-and-awards https://www.gov.uk/honours/types-of-honours-and-awards
- ziddoap 3y ago
  Interesting, thanks! I would have thought that'd be shortened to "COBE".
  - pi-e-sigma 3y ago
    One should rather ask why the UK still hands out orders that have 'British Empire' in their title :)
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    - lostlogin 3y ago
      Wait until you hear about the House of Lords and hereditary titles.
      - pi-e-sigma 3y ago
        Unfortunately I know it already. The more you know about the UK legal and political system the less it looks democratic
        hnfong 3y ago
        To be fair they are slowly making their institutions conform to a more democratic outlook. For example, their Supreme Court finally moved out of the House of Lords in 2009... (so much for "separation of powers" before that, even though they were joined only in name...)
        tialaramex 3y ago
        But contrast the situation of the United State of America, whose "Supreme Court" rather than an independent institution is in fact filled with partisan hacks to such an extent that it appears many on the Right felt that it was worth the obvious downsides of Donald Trump as President to get more Supreme Court justices. Even the Law Lords (as they were typically called when the exact same body existed as notionally part of the House of Lords prior to becoming the UK's Supreme Court) were way more independent than that. A Government minister can say "No" to the pick of the committee which independently chooses candidates for this job, but they can't pick for themselves, the committee can just give them the same name again until (inevitably) the minister gets replaced with one who doesn't say "No". It would in theory be easier for a British government to abolish their Supreme Court than for the US government, but in reality in both cases it would cause a constitutional crisis. The UK is quite capable of having a constitutional crisis, you don't need to write your constitution down to do that, but it isn't very likely.
  - toyg 3y ago
    That "O" would exist in pretty much all British honours, so it's just redundant. The levels of the order (which is the only one used on a regular basis, post-WW2) are MBE/OBE/CBE/KBE/GBE.
    - JdeBP 3y ago
      It's not just that. "of" and "the" are often omitted from initialisms, possibly as a lingering effect of, and false transferral of the conventions from, Latin where "of" is just the genitive case and "the" does not exist. "Rolling on the floor laughing" should properly be "ROTFL" but usually is "ROFL", and that example is nothing to do with Britain or the honours system. "Member of Parliament" is "MP" not "MOP". "Batchelor of Science" is not "BOSc." but is "BSc.". And so on. I suspect that "Lord of the Rings" is only "LOTR" because the sort of people who use "ROTFL" are the sort of people who even read the appendices to Tolkein and got there first. (-:
      - toyg 3y ago
        The O we were talking about is for "Order" :D (Btw in the '90s, when it mattered, ROTFL was ROTFL and that was that... Now get off my lawn.)
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scott_w 3y ago
This is the one you need: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire The CBE in particular: Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (CBE) Yes, the UK still refers to the British Empire.

Two9A 3y ago

"CBE" refers to Commander of the most excellent order of the British Empire [0] which is a title conferred by the monarch on those deemed to have performed especially well in the service of the nation. So you can see how its value might be diluted by this instance. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire

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pi-e-sigma 3y ago

Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) This is awarded for having a prominent but lesser role at national level, or a leading role at regional level. You can also get one for a distinguished, innovative contribution to any area. https://www.gov.uk/honours/types-of-honours-and-awards https://www.gov.uk/honours/types-of-honours-and-awards

ziddoap 3y ago
Interesting, thanks! I would have thought that'd be shortened to "COBE".
- pi-e-sigma 3y ago
  One should rather ask why the UK still hands out orders that have 'British Empire' in their title :)
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  - lostlogin 3y ago
    Wait until you hear about the House of Lords and hereditary titles.
    - pi-e-sigma 3y ago
      Unfortunately I know it already. The more you know about the UK legal and political system the less it looks democratic
      - hnfong 3y ago
        To be fair they are slowly making their institutions conform to a more democratic outlook. For example, their Supreme Court finally moved out of the House of Lords in 2009... (so much for "separation of powers" before that, even though they were joined only in name...)
        tialaramex 3y ago
        But contrast the situation of the United State of America, whose "Supreme Court" rather than an independent institution is in fact filled with partisan hacks to such an extent that it appears many on the Right felt that it was worth the obvious downsides of Donald Trump as President to get more Supreme Court justices. Even the Law Lords (as they were typically called when the exact same body existed as notionally part of the House of Lords prior to becoming the UK's Supreme Court) were way more independent than that. A Government minister can say "No" to the pick of the committee which independently chooses candidates for this job, but they can't pick for themselves, the committee can just give them the same name again until (inevitably) the minister gets replaced with one who doesn't say "No". It would in theory be easier for a British government to abolish their Supreme Court than for the US government, but in reality in both cases it would cause a constitutional crisis. The UK is quite capable of having a constitutional crisis, you don't need to write your constitution down to do that, but it isn't very likely.
- toyg 3y ago
  That "O" would exist in pretty much all British honours, so it's just redundant. The levels of the order (which is the only one used on a regular basis, post-WW2) are MBE/OBE/CBE/KBE/GBE.
  - JdeBP 3y ago
    It's not just that. "of" and "the" are often omitted from initialisms, possibly as a lingering effect of, and false transferral of the conventions from, Latin where "of" is just the genitive case and "the" does not exist. "Rolling on the floor laughing" should properly be "ROTFL" but usually is "ROFL", and that example is nothing to do with Britain or the honours system. "Member of Parliament" is "MP" not "MOP". "Batchelor of Science" is not "BOSc." but is "BSc.". And so on. I suspect that "Lord of the Rings" is only "LOTR" because the sort of people who use "ROTFL" are the sort of people who even read the appendices to Tolkein and got there first. (-:
    - toyg 3y ago
      The O we were talking about is for "Order" :D (Btw in the '90s, when it mattered, ROTFL was ROTFL and that was that... Now get off my lawn.)

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scott_w 3y ago

This is the one you need: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire The CBE in particular: Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (CBE) Yes, the UK still refers to the British Empire.