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I've written a little about "weasels" (Weakly State Like Entities) -- think Disneyland and Burning Man. I think the world is already full of things which do mos

I've written a little about "weasels" (Weakly State Like Entities) -- think Disneyland and Burning Man. I think the world is already full of things which do most of what micronations or network states aspire to. Activists who want to build something in this domain should be looking at buying a casino complex near an airport and redoing the decor and values more than buying land. It's all about licensing and social norms in the end.

Y_Y 3y ago
That sounds like something that would be of general interest, but I couldn't find it in your Medium. Could you give a link?
bmmayer1 3y ago
The right billionaire / fringe group / clandestine evil organization could do something interesting with Bir Tiwal, the largest expanse of unclaimed land in the world.[0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil
- oh_sigh 3y ago
  Could do something interesting, until Sudan or Egypt decide to kick everyone out (even if no one lays claim to it, they could still operate there under the guise of national security).
- teddyh 3y ago
  Or this: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38084734 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38084734>
- jcranmer 3y ago
  In the interests of being pedantic, the slice of Antarctica that no one has any claims in is the largest expanse of unclaimed land on Earth, and it has the advantage of being actually unclaimed. Bir Tawil and the Danube pockets are claimed, it's just that the border disputes mean that both parties argue it's the other side's claim; should the border dispute get resolved, there will be a clear owner of the land.
- HWR_14 3y ago
  This is like Liberland in the Balkans. It's not "unclaimed and no one wants it". There are two drawn lines for the border. Each country prefers a different line, which gives them better territory and the other country Bir Tawil. Neither country will tolerate a third party coming in and claiming the land.
- ianburrell 3y ago
  How are they intending to get to Bir Tawil when it is completely surrounded by Egypt and Sudan? Both nations can block any land or air access. Or just arrest anyone planning to go there. Also, if anything valuable is discovered or built there, Egypt and Sudan can settle their claims. Most likely is Egypt taking Halaib and Sudan have Bir Tawil, but could go the other way. Or Egypt could take both by force.

Y_Y 3y ago

That sounds like something that would be of general interest, but I couldn't find it in your Medium. Could you give a link?

bmmayer1 3y ago

The right billionaire / fringe group / clandestine evil organization could do something interesting with Bir Tiwal, the largest expanse of unclaimed land in the world.[0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil

oh_sigh 3y ago
Could do something interesting, until Sudan or Egypt decide to kick everyone out (even if no one lays claim to it, they could still operate there under the guise of national security).
teddyh 3y ago
Or this: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38084734 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38084734>
jcranmer 3y ago
In the interests of being pedantic, the slice of Antarctica that no one has any claims in is the largest expanse of unclaimed land on Earth, and it has the advantage of being actually unclaimed. Bir Tawil and the Danube pockets are claimed, it's just that the border disputes mean that both parties argue it's the other side's claim; should the border dispute get resolved, there will be a clear owner of the land.
HWR_14 3y ago
This is like Liberland in the Balkans. It's not "unclaimed and no one wants it". There are two drawn lines for the border. Each country prefers a different line, which gives them better territory and the other country Bir Tawil. Neither country will tolerate a third party coming in and claiming the land.
ianburrell 3y ago
How are they intending to get to Bir Tawil when it is completely surrounded by Egypt and Sudan? Both nations can block any land or air access. Or just arrest anyone planning to go there. Also, if anything valuable is discovered or built there, Egypt and Sudan can settle their claims. Most likely is Egypt taking Halaib and Sudan have Bir Tawil, but could go the other way. Or Egypt could take both by force.