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I can believe this as going thru something along the same lines with my housing association and met police, and it is shocking how many people who focus upon be

by Zenst 3y ago

I can believe this as going thru something along the same lines with my housing association and met police, and it is shocking how many people who focus upon being seen to do a job and lie to cover up their mistakes have grown over the past few decades in the UK. I shudder at how many scandals never come to light as the process to clear things up and get the truth out is an uphill battle. Oh and my local MP is Ed Davey, who is deeply linked to this PO scandal, though in fairness, he does seem to be singled out over all the others who did less on their watch. I somehow wonder if society is on a path of race to the bottom at times and amazed how it works with all the flaws that just seem to grow. Heck whilst typing this I get an email from police about some bail I never attended and yet again, it's the wrong person and has nothing to do with me beyond causing me more grief and stress. I don't even have a criminal record and due to do jury duty later this year, which is unlikely as being driven to wits end.

Angostura 3y ago
If you are going though something similar, don’t forget to let Private Eye know.
- Zenst 3y ago
  Think I did poke them a couple of years ago, never heard back. Oh well, way more evidence now and have it somewhat in-hand. Just so slow going thru the process and even then, getting evidence together and data requests and the level of failures just compounding. As so wide and kinda sureal that it is hard to believe. Police and housing covered up and protected an abuse addict (police informer) and ignored so many safty concerns and evidence that people dead due to it and past people who tried to speak out, either dead or gaslighted. Even tried that on me and sadly for them I recorded evidence for years and now case of bring all their failures to light in the open. Let alone all the housing failures that just keep growing. Fact my gas supplier identified fault in gas safty in october that they still not fixed and my concerns that impacted not only my flat but all the other flats (it does as i checked) and entire estate as fault when built and as such making every gas and electrical safty certificate for past 25 years invalid. Seems to fall on deaf ears, even HSE (Health and Safty Executive) seem to be, well they should fix it and toothless. Yet this is just nothing and whole list of failures by them that they already under investigation. Let alone all my findings and damming evidence. The the Met Police. But hard to really deal with it due to PTSD of it all and decade of abusive neighbours who literally tried to get me killed and not only proof of that ignored but made out the other way around when it is clear as crystal with evidence submitted that is not only untrue but downright blatant lie. Police ignored that and more so, much more in past that it is a history of pure and utter failings and criminal. Glad I have video and audio recordings proving it and that includes meetings in which police and housing lie and damming as hell. Yet, you would think somebody would care, but dam as I'm not alone in these situations. But look at Post Office scandal - how many people died over that and efforts to get to light. Then the pressure to pursue the truth and effort when others died trying. It is scary how often things get covered up. There again, I used to work for the BBC and mindful how things can get swept under carpets and ignored like Jimmy.
  - InCityDreams 3y ago
    Look up 'Power to the Proletariat' on yt. No lecturing, just great tips for dealing with the uk cops. After a while you see the same, same tricks they use.
  - orf 3y ago
    Are you saying that your neighbours literally tried to have you killed, you have strong evidence of this, and the police did nothing? Because… that’s just not really true, is it. It’s hyperbole, like most of your comment. Not to say that you are not going through bad things, but blowing a potentially minor thing up into someone literally trying to have you killed isn’t going to get people to take you seriously.
- greggsy 3y ago
  Used to read Private Eye in the 90’s as a teenager. I thought they were a satire mag - what is their interest in these kind of stories?
  - jaymzcampbell 3y ago
    They have always had a strong slant on investigative journalism. The whole back section (and quite a lot of the front tbh too) fall into that. The writing can still be acerbic but the journalism is hard hitting. They continue to honour one of their very earliest columnists with "The Private Eye Paul Foot Award for Investigative and Campaigning Journalism". It's a big part of the magazine. https://www.private-eye.co.uk/paul-foot-award https://www.private-eye.co.uk/paul-foot-award
  - tialaramex 3y ago
    It may be that you didn't understand what satire is? If everything is fine, satire is redundant. This sort of investigative journalism is closely allied to the work of the satirist.
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    The tv comedy show ‘Have I Got News For You’ covers much of the same ground. It’s a good show if you like (their) politics.
    - bloqs 3y ago
      Well one of the panel hosts is the editor of the private eye
  - peterfirefly 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Canard_encha%C3%AEn%C3%A9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Canard_encha%C3%AEn%C3%A9 Satirical papers aren't always about fun and jokes -- the good ones often break important stories before the serious papers. They often use code to write things they would otherwise be sued for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tired_and_emotional https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tired_and_emotional
  - 3y ago
Clubber 3y ago
>I somehow wonder if society is on a path of race to the bottom at times and amazed how it works with all the flaws that just seem to grow. Bureaucracies don't scale well.
- deleted 3y ago
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HPsquared 3y ago
Time to read some Kafka.
- Zenst 3y ago
  Read it, I'm living one of his greatest unwritten novels that Black Mirror episodes seem more like documentaries than they should.
- m_mueller 3y ago
  or watch 'Brazil'
  - ndsipa_pomu 3y ago
    My favourite Christmas movie!
    - m_mueller 3y ago
      I can tell you like it warm and cozy...

by Zenst 3y ago

Angostura 3y ago

If you are going though something similar, don’t forget to let Private Eye know.

Zenst 3y ago
Think I did poke them a couple of years ago, never heard back. Oh well, way more evidence now and have it somewhat in-hand. Just so slow going thru the process and even then, getting evidence together and data requests and the level of failures just compounding. As so wide and kinda sureal that it is hard to believe. Police and housing covered up and protected an abuse addict (police informer) and ignored so many safty concerns and evidence that people dead due to it and past people who tried to speak out, either dead or gaslighted. Even tried that on me and sadly for them I recorded evidence for years and now case of bring all their failures to light in the open. Let alone all the housing failures that just keep growing. Fact my gas supplier identified fault in gas safty in october that they still not fixed and my concerns that impacted not only my flat but all the other flats (it does as i checked) and entire estate as fault when built and as such making every gas and electrical safty certificate for past 25 years invalid. Seems to fall on deaf ears, even HSE (Health and Safty Executive) seem to be, well they should fix it and toothless. Yet this is just nothing and whole list of failures by them that they already under investigation. Let alone all my findings and damming evidence. The the Met Police. But hard to really deal with it due to PTSD of it all and decade of abusive neighbours who literally tried to get me killed and not only proof of that ignored but made out the other way around when it is clear as crystal with evidence submitted that is not only untrue but downright blatant lie. Police ignored that and more so, much more in past that it is a history of pure and utter failings and criminal. Glad I have video and audio recordings proving it and that includes meetings in which police and housing lie and damming as hell. Yet, you would think somebody would care, but dam as I'm not alone in these situations. But look at Post Office scandal - how many people died over that and efforts to get to light. Then the pressure to pursue the truth and effort when others died trying. It is scary how often things get covered up. There again, I used to work for the BBC and mindful how things can get swept under carpets and ignored like Jimmy.
- InCityDreams 3y ago
  Look up 'Power to the Proletariat' on yt. No lecturing, just great tips for dealing with the uk cops. After a while you see the same, same tricks they use.
- orf 3y ago
  Are you saying that your neighbours literally tried to have you killed, you have strong evidence of this, and the police did nothing? Because… that’s just not really true, is it. It’s hyperbole, like most of your comment. Not to say that you are not going through bad things, but blowing a potentially minor thing up into someone literally trying to have you killed isn’t going to get people to take you seriously.
greggsy 3y ago
Used to read Private Eye in the 90’s as a teenager. I thought they were a satire mag - what is their interest in these kind of stories?
- jaymzcampbell 3y ago
  They have always had a strong slant on investigative journalism. The whole back section (and quite a lot of the front tbh too) fall into that. The writing can still be acerbic but the journalism is hard hitting. They continue to honour one of their very earliest columnists with "The Private Eye Paul Foot Award for Investigative and Campaigning Journalism". It's a big part of the magazine. https://www.private-eye.co.uk/paul-foot-award https://www.private-eye.co.uk/paul-foot-award
- tialaramex 3y ago
  It may be that you didn't understand what satire is? If everything is fine, satire is redundant. This sort of investigative journalism is closely allied to the work of the satirist.
- lostlogin 3y ago
  The tv comedy show ‘Have I Got News For You’ covers much of the same ground. It’s a good show if you like (their) politics.
  - bloqs 3y ago
    Well one of the panel hosts is the editor of the private eye
- peterfirefly 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Canard_encha%C3%AEn%C3%A9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Canard_encha%C3%AEn%C3%A9 Satirical papers aren't always about fun and jokes -- the good ones often break important stories before the serious papers. They often use code to write things they would otherwise be sued for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tired_and_emotional https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tired_and_emotional
- 3y ago

Clubber 3y ago

>I somehow wonder if society is on a path of race to the bottom at times and amazed how it works with all the flaws that just seem to grow. Bureaucracies don't scale well.

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HPsquared 3y ago

Time to read some Kafka.

Zenst 3y ago
Read it, I'm living one of his greatest unwritten novels that Black Mirror episodes seem more like documentaries than they should.
m_mueller 3y ago
or watch 'Brazil'
- ndsipa_pomu 3y ago
  My favourite Christmas movie!
  - m_mueller 3y ago
    I can tell you like it warm and cozy...