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You're going to look silly when they add ads to premium too.

4ggr0 3y ago
That will definitely be the day I stop using YT, which will probably trigger some withdrawal symptoms. I've used YouTube since I was a little kid, it's probably the platform I've used the most in my life, and it's not even close. unfortunately, things don't last forever :( but, you know. when netflix got more and more expensive and started blocking my family for using it because they dare to not live in my apartment, i switched to pirating. now i have about 500 movies at home and can watch them remotely. so. i'm actually happy for netflix turning me into a pirate ;D I wonder what not using YouTube anymore will turn me into...
- emmet 3y ago
  I understand your earlier comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but I find it hard to justify the £12.99 a month, when I can only imagine half of it is going towards Youtube Music which I have absolutely zero intent of using. Maybe it's a free add on and it would cost the same without it, but the idea of "wasting" money on that completely turns me off. I'm considering doing the same as you with movies and downloading YouTube videos to my NAS with yt-dlp as they come out. Would probably be a better experience overall. Maybe this is the catalyst for me actually doing a bit of technical work for the first time in years.
  - 4ggr0 3y ago
    > I find it hard to justify the £12.99 a month, when I can only imagine half of it is going towards Youtube Music That's actually a good point, yes, forgot about that aspect. I think I didn't mention this because I bought my subscription over VPN in Ukraine and now pay about $2 per month. Unethical, probably. But, you know. if that stops working i'll probably have to find an alternative, as i absolutely hate and despise ads. > downloading YouTube videos to my NAS with yt-dlp yeah, same, this interests me as well. curate some sort of JSON file with channels you actually care about, and when new videos come out, download them locally and put them where my media streaming program can use them. then just delete them after they're watched, unless they're really important for some reason. i once started setting this up but got distracted halfway through and forgot about it :D there must be someone who already does this, but i didn't really find anything with a quick duckduckgo.
  - rafabulsing 3y ago
    Would you be willing to pay £12.99 if it didn't come with YouTube Music?
    - emmet 3y ago
      Strangely enough, maybe? It would be easier to see that as the cost of the product on its own rather than a bundle. Still a bit rich for my blood though I think when other services are cheaper and don't have ads as part of the content. No slight against the creators, of course make that cash, but paying for an "ad free" experience is difficult when you're still getting ads. Sure you have the ad free patreons etc. from individual creators and we're right back to the mess of paying for a thousand different streaming services.
- reportgunner 3y ago
  > I wonder what not using YouTube anymore will turn me into... An yt-dlp user I figure.
  - 4ggr0 3y ago
    I'd give your guess an approximate 95% chance to become true, yes. As I've actually used it in the past and almost started using it as my main way to watch YT. but the convenience of just opening the YT app on my phone while commuting and just instantly watching what i want is quite nice. at least for now. That being said I could back to using YouTube Vanced + SponsorBlock on my Android phone, the part which is the hardest to circumvent is my Smart TV. Haven't found a way to sneak past ads there, without paying.
    - reportgunner 3y ago
      Or you could just watch youtube less :)
      - 4ggr0 3y ago
        based on my reaction to your comment i might be addicted to it... but that would generally be a good idea.
        reportgunner 3y ago
        The way I got out was to stop using the recommendation page and the subscription feed first - if I can't remember the channel exists I probably won't miss watching it. (also your friends will remind you of some channels by sending you the video link and trying to discuss it) I used ublock origin to block all images from youtube so I have to read the title instead of getting baited by a flashy thumbnail. About 5 years later and I barely watch any video that isn't sent to me.

That will definitely be the day I stop using YT, which will probably trigger some withdrawal symptoms. I've used YouTube since I was a little kid, it's probably the platform I've used the most in my life, and it's not even close. unfortunately, things don't last forever :( but, you know. when netflix got more and more expensive and started blocking my family for using it because they dare to not live in my apartment, i switched to pirating. now i have about 500 movies at home and can watch them remotely. so. i'm actually happy for netflix turning me into a pirate ;D I wonder what not using YouTube anymore will turn me into...

emmet 3y ago
I understand your earlier comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but I find it hard to justify the £12.99 a month, when I can only imagine half of it is going towards Youtube Music which I have absolutely zero intent of using. Maybe it's a free add on and it would cost the same without it, but the idea of "wasting" money on that completely turns me off. I'm considering doing the same as you with movies and downloading YouTube videos to my NAS with yt-dlp as they come out. Would probably be a better experience overall. Maybe this is the catalyst for me actually doing a bit of technical work for the first time in years.
- 4ggr0 3y ago
  > I find it hard to justify the £12.99 a month, when I can only imagine half of it is going towards Youtube Music That's actually a good point, yes, forgot about that aspect. I think I didn't mention this because I bought my subscription over VPN in Ukraine and now pay about $2 per month. Unethical, probably. But, you know. if that stops working i'll probably have to find an alternative, as i absolutely hate and despise ads. > downloading YouTube videos to my NAS with yt-dlp yeah, same, this interests me as well. curate some sort of JSON file with channels you actually care about, and when new videos come out, download them locally and put them where my media streaming program can use them. then just delete them after they're watched, unless they're really important for some reason. i once started setting this up but got distracted halfway through and forgot about it :D there must be someone who already does this, but i didn't really find anything with a quick duckduckgo.
- rafabulsing 3y ago
  Would you be willing to pay £12.99 if it didn't come with YouTube Music?
  - emmet 3y ago
    Strangely enough, maybe? It would be easier to see that as the cost of the product on its own rather than a bundle. Still a bit rich for my blood though I think when other services are cheaper and don't have ads as part of the content. No slight against the creators, of course make that cash, but paying for an "ad free" experience is difficult when you're still getting ads. Sure you have the ad free patreons etc. from individual creators and we're right back to the mess of paying for a thousand different streaming services.
reportgunner 3y ago
> I wonder what not using YouTube anymore will turn me into... An yt-dlp user I figure.
- 4ggr0 3y ago
  I'd give your guess an approximate 95% chance to become true, yes. As I've actually used it in the past and almost started using it as my main way to watch YT. but the convenience of just opening the YT app on my phone while commuting and just instantly watching what i want is quite nice. at least for now. That being said I could back to using YouTube Vanced + SponsorBlock on my Android phone, the part which is the hardest to circumvent is my Smart TV. Haven't found a way to sneak past ads there, without paying.
  - reportgunner 3y ago
    Or you could just watch youtube less :)
    - 4ggr0 3y ago
      based on my reaction to your comment i might be addicted to it... but that would generally be a good idea.
      - reportgunner 3y ago
        The way I got out was to stop using the recommendation page and the subscription feed first - if I can't remember the channel exists I probably won't miss watching it. (also your friends will remind you of some channels by sending you the video link and trying to discuss it) I used ublock origin to block all images from youtube so I have to read the title instead of getting baited by a flashy thumbnail. About 5 years later and I barely watch any video that isn't sent to me.