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> We spoke to CloudFlare and were quoted a number we cannot reasonably achieve within our financial means I don't get it. Cloudflare proudly advertises unmeter

> We spoke to CloudFlare and were quoted a number we cannot reasonably achieve within our financial means I don't get it. Cloudflare proudly advertises unmetered DDoS protection on any plan level. Is that just a lie, or what am I missing here? They don't need to be on a custom Enterprise plan.

tpetry 3y ago
They are only doing unmetered DDoS for HTTP traffic - for websites. File storage etc. is not allowed. And git falls into that realm.
- andersa 3y ago
  I see, that explains it.
  - Deathmax 3y ago
    To expand on that, Cloudflare's standard product is their HTTP reverse proxy. To proxy arbitrary TCP/UDP traffic, you need to use their Cloudflare Spectrum service (https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/application-services/products/cloudflare-spectrum/ https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/application-services/produc...), which is metered.
    - blibble 3y ago
      wow $1/GB? would be cheaper to pay a developer to add websocket support to openssh
    - matteocontrini 3y ago
      I think they might be looking in something more similar to Magic Transit, but that depends on how they set up their infrastructure.
donor20 3y ago
Unlimited free is almost always a lie.
- arrowsmith 3y ago
  See also "unlimited paid time off".
- internetter 3y ago
  But in this case it literally is? Cloudflare provides unlimited HTTP traffic on all plans, exactly what they claim. Sourcehut needs a different service.
  - coldacid 3y ago
    HTTP(S)-only _is_ the limit.
    - dingnuts 3y ago
      Yeah, because protecting other protocols would require a totally different approach and product. This isn't a conspiracy. The Cloudflare HTTP CDN cannot protect SSH any more than a condom will make a good umbrella just because they both are designed for protection!
      - donor20 3y ago
        There is no chance of unlimited http even - otherwise startups would free ride that for their video sites etc
  - donor20 3y ago
    every / Netflix / porn site etc would use the unlimited free http traffic service if they could. I’d start a YouTube competitor. At some point if you use a lot of bandwidth you will get a call. So unlimited http traffic is a lie. Heck - my guess if you dumped a few petabytes into New Zealand or similar with high term costs you’d get a call
dinp 3y ago
https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/plans/ https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/plans/ Looks like level 3 ddos protection is only available on the enterprise plan, it's not included in the unmetered ddos protection.
- samcat116 3y ago
  Layer 3*

tpetry 3y ago

They are only doing unmetered DDoS for HTTP traffic - for websites. File storage etc. is not allowed. And git falls into that realm.

andersa 3y ago
I see, that explains it.
- Deathmax 3y ago
  To expand on that, Cloudflare's standard product is their HTTP reverse proxy. To proxy arbitrary TCP/UDP traffic, you need to use their Cloudflare Spectrum service (https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/application-services/products/cloudflare-spectrum/ https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/application-services/produc...), which is metered.
  - blibble 3y ago
    wow $1/GB? would be cheaper to pay a developer to add websocket support to openssh
  - matteocontrini 3y ago
    I think they might be looking in something more similar to Magic Transit, but that depends on how they set up their infrastructure.

donor20 3y ago

Unlimited free is almost always a lie.

arrowsmith 3y ago
See also "unlimited paid time off".
internetter 3y ago
But in this case it literally is? Cloudflare provides unlimited HTTP traffic on all plans, exactly what they claim. Sourcehut needs a different service.
- coldacid 3y ago
  HTTP(S)-only _is_ the limit.
  - dingnuts 3y ago
    Yeah, because protecting other protocols would require a totally different approach and product. This isn't a conspiracy. The Cloudflare HTTP CDN cannot protect SSH any more than a condom will make a good umbrella just because they both are designed for protection!
    - donor20 3y ago
      There is no chance of unlimited http even - otherwise startups would free ride that for their video sites etc
- donor20 3y ago
  every / Netflix / porn site etc would use the unlimited free http traffic service if they could. I’d start a YouTube competitor. At some point if you use a lot of bandwidth you will get a call. So unlimited http traffic is a lie. Heck - my guess if you dumped a few petabytes into New Zealand or similar with high term costs you’d get a call

dinp 3y ago

https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/plans/ https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/plans/ Looks like level 3 ddos protection is only available on the enterprise plan, it's not included in the unmetered ddos protection.

samcat116 3y ago
Layer 3*