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I think your knowledge may be a little out of date. I charge my (non-Tesla) EV at Tesla Superchargers and pay 30p/kWh at the excellent Ionity (350kW!) chargers.

toyg 3y ago
There is exactly one Ionity charger for the whole of Greater Manchester, with the other nearest ones being more than an hour drive in two directions. Not a realistic suggestion for anyone not living in London.
- jasoncartwright 3y ago
  There are 12 Ionity chargers in Greater Manchester, plus 18 Tesla ones. I've used both sets. You seem to be confusing home/destination chargers and rapid chargers - which is a common mistake for non-EV drivers to make. Unlike petrol, electricity comes to you.
  - michaelt 3y ago
    > You seem to be confusing home/destination chargers and rapid chargers Well, or they went to https://ionity.eu/en/network/network-status https://ionity.eu/en/network/network-status or https://www.zap-map.com/live/ https://www.zap-map.com/live/ looked at Manchester and it listed only one Ionity charger, "Manchester East".
    - toyg 3y ago
      This.
    - jasoncartwright 3y ago
      Doesn't really matter, but that's one location that contains multiple chargers. Of course, very few people that live in Greater Manchester would use a really fast charger like those there whilst in Greater Manchester. Maybe if you're a taxi driver, or caught short somehow? This is the confusion I was talking about.
      - toyg 3y ago
        > that's one location that contains multiple chargers. It's still one location. If I live in Trafford is easily a 45 minute drive, much worse at peak times. > very few people that live in Greater Manchester would use a really fast charger Because obviously we all have driveways and we can leave the car there overnight. Fuck 'em terraces scum. /s
        jasoncartwright 3y ago
        Like many UK EV owners I don't have a driveway either and use a lamp post charger overnight.
        toyg 3y ago
        Good for you, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a lamppost for every car out there.
        jasoncartwright 3y ago
        Luckily not every car needs charging every day, plus there are extender bollards for the gaps

toyg 3y ago

There is exactly one Ionity charger for the whole of Greater Manchester, with the other nearest ones being more than an hour drive in two directions. Not a realistic suggestion for anyone not living in London.

jasoncartwright 3y ago
There are 12 Ionity chargers in Greater Manchester, plus 18 Tesla ones. I've used both sets. You seem to be confusing home/destination chargers and rapid chargers - which is a common mistake for non-EV drivers to make. Unlike petrol, electricity comes to you.
- michaelt 3y ago
  > You seem to be confusing home/destination chargers and rapid chargers Well, or they went to https://ionity.eu/en/network/network-status https://ionity.eu/en/network/network-status or https://www.zap-map.com/live/ https://www.zap-map.com/live/ looked at Manchester and it listed only one Ionity charger, "Manchester East".
  - toyg 3y ago
    This.
  - jasoncartwright 3y ago
    Doesn't really matter, but that's one location that contains multiple chargers. Of course, very few people that live in Greater Manchester would use a really fast charger like those there whilst in Greater Manchester. Maybe if you're a taxi driver, or caught short somehow? This is the confusion I was talking about.
    - toyg 3y ago
      > that's one location that contains multiple chargers. It's still one location. If I live in Trafford is easily a 45 minute drive, much worse at peak times. > very few people that live in Greater Manchester would use a really fast charger Because obviously we all have driveways and we can leave the car there overnight. Fuck 'em terraces scum. /s
      - jasoncartwright 3y ago
        Like many UK EV owners I don't have a driveway either and use a lamp post charger overnight.
        toyg 3y ago
        Good for you, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a lamppost for every car out there.
        jasoncartwright 3y ago
        Luckily not every car needs charging every day, plus there are extender bollards for the gaps