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Thats not Hue’s fault though, your friend should be better at planning and implementing their Hue implementation. Hue bulbs default to “normal on” when power is

Thats not Hue’s fault though, your friend should be better at planning and implementing their Hue implementation. Hue bulbs default to “normal on” when power is restored, and also work with sensors, dimmers, and switches.

cameldrv 3y ago
No, it's fundamentally impossible. He wants to be able to control his lights from his phone, and that's impossible if the lights have no power. The only way for his lights to have power at all times is for the light switch to be on, but I don't want that when I'm sleeping. Therefore, the switch must be on but the light off, so to turn the light on, I need an app.
- mdekkers 3y ago
  Sorry, you are incorrect. I have a house full of Hue devices, for many years now. I also have many houseguests. Not once did I ask any of them (or my wife, for that matter) to use an app to do anything in my home. To turn the light on or off, everyone here either uses Hue switches, or just walk into the space, if it is a common space, where the motion sensors takes care of things.
  - mewpmewp2 3y ago
    I ask my guests to open a PR or github discussion if they want the smart door to toilet open. The config is right now hardcoded and it has worked very well to keep guests away from my home to give me focus time.
    - moandcompany 3y ago
      Whenever I install or (re)configure something involving "Smart Home" I think carefully about what will be returned when family/partner does a `git blame` ...
- FanaHOVA 3y ago
  https://www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-dimmer-switch--latest-model-/046677562779#overview https://www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-dimmer-switch--lates... He just wanted to save $28. I have these in my house. No app required.
- XorNot 3y ago
  No neutral smart switches exist. The nice ones use a capacitor behind the light fixture to trickle enough current for the switch. There's actually no particular reason you couldn't do it the other way round I suspect but I've not heard of anyone implementing it.

cameldrv 3y ago

No, it's fundamentally impossible. He wants to be able to control his lights from his phone, and that's impossible if the lights have no power. The only way for his lights to have power at all times is for the light switch to be on, but I don't want that when I'm sleeping. Therefore, the switch must be on but the light off, so to turn the light on, I need an app.

mdekkers 3y ago
Sorry, you are incorrect. I have a house full of Hue devices, for many years now. I also have many houseguests. Not once did I ask any of them (or my wife, for that matter) to use an app to do anything in my home. To turn the light on or off, everyone here either uses Hue switches, or just walk into the space, if it is a common space, where the motion sensors takes care of things.
- mewpmewp2 3y ago
  I ask my guests to open a PR or github discussion if they want the smart door to toilet open. The config is right now hardcoded and it has worked very well to keep guests away from my home to give me focus time.
  - moandcompany 3y ago
    Whenever I install or (re)configure something involving "Smart Home" I think carefully about what will be returned when family/partner does a `git blame` ...
FanaHOVA 3y ago
https://www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-dimmer-switch--latest-model-/046677562779#overview https://www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-dimmer-switch--lates... He just wanted to save $28. I have these in my house. No app required.
XorNot 3y ago
No neutral smart switches exist. The nice ones use a capacitor behind the light fixture to trickle enough current for the switch. There's actually no particular reason you couldn't do it the other way round I suspect but I've not heard of anyone implementing it.