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Uploading a private conversation with HR to TikTok surely isn't going to help her job hunting. Prospective employers might view such behavior as a red flag... I

Uploading a private conversation with HR to TikTok surely isn't going to help her job hunting. Prospective employers might view such behavior as a red flag... It might even be illegal given that the HR people are likely located in California, a "two-party consent" state.

system2 3y ago
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- kirksidlo 3y ago
  Could we not do generation based discrimination here? It's so tired and useless.
  - system2 3y ago
    The video is on TikTok. It is useful to know this is done by Gen Z. While hiring it is important to remember that quitting/fired employees will do something similar. Gen Zs also act like the world owes them an apology for every small issue they encounter and act irrationally. Maybe a Gen Z reading these comments will think twice before posting something that can damage their future job hunting irreparably.
    - foepys 3y ago
      If you were to replace "Gen Z" with "women" in your comment, would you still think it's okay to submit it? Ageism is just as bad as sexism.
      - system2 3y ago
        I am glad you read my comment.
blinding-streak 3y ago
Exactly. Highly entertaining and revealing for us to watch, but I don't think she did herself any favors moving forward.
hpaavola 3y ago
It's really good that some are ready to do what is right instead of just bending over.
- olalonde 3y ago
  I generally agree with this sentiment, but I'm uncertain about its relevance in this specific case. CloudFlare decided to terminate her employment, what's wrong with that? Unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise, it seems reasonable to assume that their decision was based on letting go of employees who were perceived as the least valuable or lowest performing.
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    The assumption going on is that they're trying to skimp on severance and unemployment by maskerading it as a perfomance issue.
- aurareturn 3y ago
  Well, if I have to hire one important account executive for my team, would I consider her? No. Not only did she post it on social media, but it revealed that she made no sales (her fault or not). But I guess this is Gen Z for you.
  - laerus 3y ago
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  - november84 3y ago
    Did...did we watch the same video?
  - Dah00n 3y ago
    What an infantile way to express your dislike for younger people.
latentcall 3y ago
I’m glad she did. I don’t remember seeing a video like that “behind closed doors”. Goes to show for anybody considering working at Cloudflare to look elsewhere. They’ve mishandled this situation so badly they did more damage than her video ever could have. Besides, it takes serious guts to do what she did. If CF were honest with her from the get go the video may not even exist. She will be able to find another job but the PR hit and lack of trust in this company will be more difficult to repair I suppose.
makeitdouble 3y ago
I totally see how a company could go after her in a legal battle to punish for that behavior, so it's definitely not a recommended move. But on prospective employers, perhaps she doesn't need future employers who'd be pissed at their shitty HR drones getting exposed on social media ? She might not need to go work at a Fortune 500 company lawyered to the teeth, and could find a nice place that is willing to commit to higher standard of communication with their employees ? I had a coworker go shout insanities at the CEO at a meeting after the company pushed a few of his buttons, it was totally unprofessional and a hot headed move, but I'd still see him as a good hire in a different setting. People can have flaws and bitch too much publicly and still be valuable workers in the right contexts.

system2 3y ago

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kirksidlo 3y ago
Could we not do generation based discrimination here? It's so tired and useless.
- system2 3y ago
  The video is on TikTok. It is useful to know this is done by Gen Z. While hiring it is important to remember that quitting/fired employees will do something similar. Gen Zs also act like the world owes them an apology for every small issue they encounter and act irrationally. Maybe a Gen Z reading these comments will think twice before posting something that can damage their future job hunting irreparably.
  - foepys 3y ago
    If you were to replace "Gen Z" with "women" in your comment, would you still think it's okay to submit it? Ageism is just as bad as sexism.
    - system2 3y ago
      I am glad you read my comment.

blinding-streak 3y ago

Exactly. Highly entertaining and revealing for us to watch, but I don't think she did herself any favors moving forward.

hpaavola 3y ago

It's really good that some are ready to do what is right instead of just bending over.

olalonde 3y ago
I generally agree with this sentiment, but I'm uncertain about its relevance in this specific case. CloudFlare decided to terminate her employment, what's wrong with that? Unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise, it seems reasonable to assume that their decision was based on letting go of employees who were perceived as the least valuable or lowest performing.
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  The assumption going on is that they're trying to skimp on severance and unemployment by maskerading it as a perfomance issue.
aurareturn 3y ago
Well, if I have to hire one important account executive for my team, would I consider her? No. Not only did she post it on social media, but it revealed that she made no sales (her fault or not). But I guess this is Gen Z for you.
- laerus 3y ago
  [flagged]
- november84 3y ago
  Did...did we watch the same video?
- Dah00n 3y ago
  What an infantile way to express your dislike for younger people.

latentcall 3y ago

I’m glad she did. I don’t remember seeing a video like that “behind closed doors”. Goes to show for anybody considering working at Cloudflare to look elsewhere. They’ve mishandled this situation so badly they did more damage than her video ever could have. Besides, it takes serious guts to do what she did. If CF were honest with her from the get go the video may not even exist. She will be able to find another job but the PR hit and lack of trust in this company will be more difficult to repair I suppose.

makeitdouble 3y ago

I totally see how a company could go after her in a legal battle to punish for that behavior, so it's definitely not a recommended move. But on prospective employers, perhaps she doesn't need future employers who'd be pissed at their shitty HR drones getting exposed on social media ? She might not need to go work at a Fortune 500 company lawyered to the teeth, and could find a nice place that is willing to commit to higher standard of communication with their employees ? I had a coworker go shout insanities at the CEO at a meeting after the company pushed a few of his buttons, it was totally unprofessional and a hot headed move, but I'd still see him as a good hire in a different setting. People can have flaws and bitch too much publicly and still be valuable workers in the right contexts.