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Nope it’s not. It’s illegal to record a conversation where no participant is aware of the recording. She is aware, so it’s all fine

paul7986 3y ago
lol and Umm have you ever been on a zoom call before ..ones that's being recorded. Before you join you must give your ok that you are going to be recorded. Everyone has to do the same who joins. You probably haven't been on a business zoom call yet!
- jbverschoor 3y ago
  Federal law (18 U.S.C. § 2511) requires one-party consent, which means you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. The Federal Wiretap Act This law prohibits the secret recording of an oral, telephonic, or electronic communication that other parties to the communication reasonably expect to be private. However, if at least one party to the conversation consents to the recording, the recording is lawful. Want more slaps? Enjoy your malware rootkit zoom calls which had nothing to do with “the law”
  - paul7986-2 3y ago
    No slaps for learning as I see in this thread we both are and more importantly the correct answer is very nuanced. Unless someone does a deep Legal dive and we have all the facts neither of us can say who's right or wrong. Overall doesn't matter as it's an interesting discussion. As well I live in and do business in two out of the 11 US states where all parties must consent so I was speaking from experience and that Zoom button is official.. Dutchman ;)
RHSeeger 3y ago
There's many places where everyone on the call being recorded must consent.
teeray 3y ago
That’s in a one-party state. There are many all-party states, where you need to have consent from all parties. Even if the video call is being recorded (very likely), you still need to seek consent for your recording. Of course, IANAL, but I’d be interested if there’s an additional distinction about the purpose of the recording (internal records, public broadcast) and whether the consent would also need to extend to that.
- jbverschoor 3y ago
  While I was not aware there are state level laws for this, she appears to be from Georgia. Not sure how this would work with inter-state conversations. Georgia is not on the list: California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
  - teeray 3y ago
    > Not sure how this would work with inter-state conversations. My guess would be either that the state where the call “originated” would control, or the state in play with the most restrictive call recording laws.
    - paul7986-2 3y ago
      So the correct answer isn't so clear but maybe she did break the law (maybe she didn't) if HR called from one of those 11 states. Cloudflare is based in San Fran but per their LinkedIn many employees are spread out. Overall I'm being downvoted for my post which I've learned is wrong. I've also learned the correct answer is very nuanced and those downvoting saying my post is 100 percent incorrect well we just don't know unless someone does a deep legal dive. As well we know where the originating calls came from and we can assume properly she was in Georgia. Again very nuanced but an interesting discussion.

paul7986 3y ago

lol and Umm have you ever been on a zoom call before ..ones that's being recorded. Before you join you must give your ok that you are going to be recorded. Everyone has to do the same who joins. You probably haven't been on a business zoom call yet!

jbverschoor 3y ago
Federal law (18 U.S.C. § 2511) requires one-party consent, which means you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. The Federal Wiretap Act This law prohibits the secret recording of an oral, telephonic, or electronic communication that other parties to the communication reasonably expect to be private. However, if at least one party to the conversation consents to the recording, the recording is lawful. Want more slaps? Enjoy your malware rootkit zoom calls which had nothing to do with “the law”
- paul7986-2 3y ago
  No slaps for learning as I see in this thread we both are and more importantly the correct answer is very nuanced. Unless someone does a deep Legal dive and we have all the facts neither of us can say who's right or wrong. Overall doesn't matter as it's an interesting discussion. As well I live in and do business in two out of the 11 US states where all parties must consent so I was speaking from experience and that Zoom button is official.. Dutchman ;)

RHSeeger 3y ago

There's many places where everyone on the call being recorded must consent.

teeray 3y ago

That’s in a one-party state. There are many all-party states, where you need to have consent from all parties. Even if the video call is being recorded (very likely), you still need to seek consent for your recording. Of course, IANAL, but I’d be interested if there’s an additional distinction about the purpose of the recording (internal records, public broadcast) and whether the consent would also need to extend to that.

jbverschoor 3y ago
While I was not aware there are state level laws for this, she appears to be from Georgia. Not sure how this would work with inter-state conversations. Georgia is not on the list: California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
- teeray 3y ago
  > Not sure how this would work with inter-state conversations. My guess would be either that the state where the call “originated” would control, or the state in play with the most restrictive call recording laws.
  - paul7986-2 3y ago
    So the correct answer isn't so clear but maybe she did break the law (maybe she didn't) if HR called from one of those 11 states. Cloudflare is based in San Fran but per their LinkedIn many employees are spread out. Overall I'm being downvoted for my post which I've learned is wrong. I've also learned the correct answer is very nuanced and those downvoting saying my post is 100 percent incorrect well we just don't know unless someone does a deep legal dive. As well we know where the originating calls came from and we can assume properly she was in Georgia. Again very nuanced but an interesting discussion.