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As someone that’s generally pro Israel on most things, they are literally massacring men, women and children. They’re culling them like sheep. The response to f

As someone that’s generally pro Israel on most things, they are literally massacring men, women and children. They’re culling them like sheep. The response to freedom fighters mounting a resistance shouldn’t be genocide.

rythmshifter 3y ago
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- fckhsbra 3y ago
  1. It's not clear what that expression actually means; how is the population of Gaza used as "human shields"? 2. Even if it was true, does that then justify murdering them? When there is hostage taking in, say, a supermarket the police tries their best to stop only the hostage taker(s) and not their victim(s); they certainly don't bomb the entire supermarket from the sky causing 500 casualties. Many Western countries have had brutal acts of terrors committed against them, they didn't raze the entire neighborhoods were the perpetrators lived.
  - wslh 3y ago
    Could you please comment about other athrocities in the world in the last few years?
  - dd_xplore 3y ago
    so they should just let themselves be killed?
- krapp 3y ago
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- racketcon2089 3y ago
  We're talking about Israel intentionally killing their own hostages, right?
wslh 3y ago
It seems like people wake up when it is about Israel but nothing is commented about other athrocities. Double standards are more a mirror about the people. It is not about the issue itself but about the obsessive focus on one topic. If you look at HN most articles pro Israel are flagged while anti-israel does not.
- fckhsbra 3y ago
  There is a double standard but it's not the one you think. Israel is the only state that can get away with such behavior without a single sanction. Russia is under a severe package of sanctions for doing something that is not fundamentally different. Israel is also a particular focus in the West (and especially in America) because it's done with US support (in the UN) and US weapons. So, yes, people are talking about it more than, say, the situation in Myanmar. Note that there are also sanctions against Myanmar, among other things a ban on military sales to them for what they are doing; so can we now similarly ban the sales of weapons to Israel?
  - tptacek 3y ago
    I think a lot of what Israel has done is hard to defend, but it is all very much unlike what Russia has done. An organized military organization didn't invade Russia from Ukraine and kill hundreds upon hundreds of civilians, face to face, and then return to Ukraine vowing to repeat the attack. That did in fact happen to Israel.
    - runarberg 3y ago
      They don’t offer exemptions on human rights if you have the right motive. Human rights are supposed to be kept regardless of past wrongs. So what happened to Israel prior to their violations of international agreements is irrelevant. The double standard here is that both Russia and Israel are guilty of breaking human rights but instead of ordering sanctions against Israel, many nations offered them more weapons to double down on their atrocities. And in fact Israel’s crimes against humanity far exceed those of Russia. So the double standard is even amplified. EDIT: Executive’s director of Human Rights Watch on the international double standard https://aje.io/ussvy1?update=2613047 https://aje.io/ussvy1?update=2613047

rythmshifter 3y ago

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fckhsbra 3y ago
1. It's not clear what that expression actually means; how is the population of Gaza used as "human shields"? 2. Even if it was true, does that then justify murdering them? When there is hostage taking in, say, a supermarket the police tries their best to stop only the hostage taker(s) and not their victim(s); they certainly don't bomb the entire supermarket from the sky causing 500 casualties. Many Western countries have had brutal acts of terrors committed against them, they didn't raze the entire neighborhoods were the perpetrators lived.
- wslh 3y ago
  Could you please comment about other athrocities in the world in the last few years?
- dd_xplore 3y ago
  so they should just let themselves be killed?
krapp 3y ago
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racketcon2089 3y ago
We're talking about Israel intentionally killing their own hostages, right?

wslh 3y ago

It seems like people wake up when it is about Israel but nothing is commented about other athrocities. Double standards are more a mirror about the people. It is not about the issue itself but about the obsessive focus on one topic. If you look at HN most articles pro Israel are flagged while anti-israel does not.

fckhsbra 3y ago
There is a double standard but it's not the one you think. Israel is the only state that can get away with such behavior without a single sanction. Russia is under a severe package of sanctions for doing something that is not fundamentally different. Israel is also a particular focus in the West (and especially in America) because it's done with US support (in the UN) and US weapons. So, yes, people are talking about it more than, say, the situation in Myanmar. Note that there are also sanctions against Myanmar, among other things a ban on military sales to them for what they are doing; so can we now similarly ban the sales of weapons to Israel?
- tptacek 3y ago
  I think a lot of what Israel has done is hard to defend, but it is all very much unlike what Russia has done. An organized military organization didn't invade Russia from Ukraine and kill hundreds upon hundreds of civilians, face to face, and then return to Ukraine vowing to repeat the attack. That did in fact happen to Israel.
  - runarberg 3y ago
    They don’t offer exemptions on human rights if you have the right motive. Human rights are supposed to be kept regardless of past wrongs. So what happened to Israel prior to their violations of international agreements is irrelevant. The double standard here is that both Russia and Israel are guilty of breaking human rights but instead of ordering sanctions against Israel, many nations offered them more weapons to double down on their atrocities. And in fact Israel’s crimes against humanity far exceed those of Russia. So the double standard is even amplified. EDIT: Executive’s director of Human Rights Watch on the international double standard https://aje.io/ussvy1?update=2613047 https://aje.io/ussvy1?update=2613047