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I had a mostly great experience with Hertz Polestar in Switzerland. Easy to drive, did well on the road. The most painful part of the experience was attempting

I had a mostly great experience with Hertz Polestar in Switzerland. Easy to drive, did well on the road. The most painful part of the experience was attempting to charge it before returning it. Finding a compatible, working L3 charger was very difficult, even in Zurich and the experience of downloading an app to start the charging process was terrible. It of course, didn't accept my non-Swiss credit card and I had a get a local friend to help with the payment part.

steelframe 3y ago
> It of course, didn't accept my non-Swiss credit card If I can't use the vehicle without needing to carry a working cellular-connected computer running a specific operating system in my pocket and/or having a specific category of bank card, that's a hard 'no' for me. Either have the car negotiate payment with the charging network or give me the option of handing currency to a person at a register. Otherwise I insist on a dino car.
- resolutebat 3y ago
  Charging Teslas with Tesla Superchargers is as streamlined as possible: just plug in. Charging non-Teslas at SCs is almost as good, you just need to tell the app which unit you're plugged into. It's third-party chargers that are an endless source of frustration.
  - steelframe 3y ago
    > Charging non-Teslas at SCs is almost as good, you just need to tell the app which unit you're plugged into. That's not the "just need to" that works for me. For privacy reasons I don't carry a device that constantly reports my personal information to Apple or Google. Can I install this app from F-Droid? Strike one. Now supposing I decide I'm cool with being tracked by Apple or Google all the time and use a device I can get the app on. Do I need to register an account with the app? With my personal information? So the fact that I am driving a specific Tesla vehicle along with my location can be tracked by Tesla? Strike two. Now supposing I decide I'm cool with being tracked by Apple or Google and Tesla, do I need to register a Visa or Mastercard with the app so I can also be tracked by the payment provider, who will sell my transactions to random third-party eReceipt brokers who will dutifully add my travel habits to the profile they keep on me? Strike three. Nope. Not playing any of these games. Gas car, cash. Thank you very much.
thatfrenchguy 3y ago
Eh, you could just have used a Tesla Supercharger
- umeshunni 3y ago
  Polestar 2s can't be charged at a supercharger, can they? At least they can't in the US.
  - mavhc 3y ago
    Pretty much every EU EV uses CCS2, and certain Tesla Superchargers allow 3rd party access, there's about 50 in Italy according to their app
  - thatfrenchguy 3y ago
    They can for most of them in the EU. In Switzerland it's also the only vaguely non-ridiculously expensive option.
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steelframe 3y ago

> It of course, didn't accept my non-Swiss credit card If I can't use the vehicle without needing to carry a working cellular-connected computer running a specific operating system in my pocket and/or having a specific category of bank card, that's a hard 'no' for me. Either have the car negotiate payment with the charging network or give me the option of handing currency to a person at a register. Otherwise I insist on a dino car.

resolutebat 3y ago
Charging Teslas with Tesla Superchargers is as streamlined as possible: just plug in. Charging non-Teslas at SCs is almost as good, you just need to tell the app which unit you're plugged into. It's third-party chargers that are an endless source of frustration.
- steelframe 3y ago
  > Charging non-Teslas at SCs is almost as good, you just need to tell the app which unit you're plugged into. That's not the "just need to" that works for me. For privacy reasons I don't carry a device that constantly reports my personal information to Apple or Google. Can I install this app from F-Droid? Strike one. Now supposing I decide I'm cool with being tracked by Apple or Google all the time and use a device I can get the app on. Do I need to register an account with the app? With my personal information? So the fact that I am driving a specific Tesla vehicle along with my location can be tracked by Tesla? Strike two. Now supposing I decide I'm cool with being tracked by Apple or Google and Tesla, do I need to register a Visa or Mastercard with the app so I can also be tracked by the payment provider, who will sell my transactions to random third-party eReceipt brokers who will dutifully add my travel habits to the profile they keep on me? Strike three. Nope. Not playing any of these games. Gas car, cash. Thank you very much.

thatfrenchguy 3y ago

Eh, you could just have used a Tesla Supercharger

umeshunni 3y ago
Polestar 2s can't be charged at a supercharger, can they? At least they can't in the US.
- mavhc 3y ago
  Pretty much every EU EV uses CCS2, and certain Tesla Superchargers allow 3rd party access, there's about 50 in Italy according to their app
- thatfrenchguy 3y ago
  They can for most of them in the EU. In Switzerland it's also the only vaguely non-ridiculously expensive option.
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