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>and every developer (at least those we met and signed) know their worth What about those you didn't sign? What about the SW bodyshops aka visa shops, who pray

>and every developer (at least those we met and signed) know their worth What about those you didn't sign? What about the SW bodyshops aka visa shops, who pray on desperate foreigners from broken countries trying to emigrate at any cost? I know more of those sleezy bodyshops than I have fingers on my hands to count. I never said your comapny does this, but you can't pretend immigration wage dumping doesn't exist and that many companyes aren't exploiting it. You also can't tell me with a straight face that flooding the market with more workers doesn't lower wages as per the supply/demand of the market.

oytis 3y ago
These foreigners will quickly learn the cost of living in Germany and what their colleagues get, I don't think it's a significant factor. What really keeps wages down IMO is the lack of high-margin/high-growth businesses, lack of German "unicorns", general risk-averseness of German capital (which can be explained by the previous two).
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  > IMO is the lack of high-margin/high-growth businesses It's not really a German-only thing. Other than the US and China almost no other country currently has such things. EU is mostly traditional businesses and risk-averse investors.
  - dev_0 3y ago
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  - oytis 3y ago
    > It's not really a German-only thing. Sure, relatively (compared to what one can have in the US) low salaries for software engineers is a EU wide thing. Some countries pay more some less, Germany is probably closer to the top if you consider EU.