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Now imagine if they opened those jobs to all of us in low cost of living areas instead of demanding in person presence. They'd get better people, and people lik
by TylerE 3y ago
Now imagine if they opened those jobs to all of us in low cost of living areas instead of demanding in person presence. They'd get better people, and people like me would be getting a decent bump even if we were only getting 50 or 60% of SF salary.
- MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago[flagged]
- TylerE 3y agoI mean, I certainly think me and my 23 years of experience is better than random body shop grads. I just have zero interest in relocating or playing the startup game.
- MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago[flagged]
- TylerE 3y agoYou're awful judgey of someone you've never met. If the problem is "we hired every warm body in a 50 mile radius, turns out a lot of 'em aren't really qualified", I don't see how bringing in even garden variety decent people from elsewhere doesn't bring the average up.
- DevAbdul 3y agodamn
- michpoch 3y agoWhy would they give you 50 or 60% of SF salary when they could hire someone in a real low cost area then?
- hn_throwaway_99 3y agoExactly - I feel that folks in the US or Western Europe who are in "low cost areas" are in for a shock, as in many ways they have the worst of all possible combos. Either you're in a big "tech city" where being present (often in person) provides a tangible benefit that your employer is willing to pay for, or your essentially bidding on cost, where someone in a lower-cost country will be able to beat you every time. I've been in tech for a long time, but this is the first time we've had a significant downturn where remote/videoconferencing options have been so good. In the past it felt like executive cries of "we'll just outsource everything!" always backfired because the communication and management overhead (not to mention varying quality levels) had been extreme. Now, though, with everyone used to remote work, why bother looking to save a few bucks hiring in Wichita when you can save more, and get just as good if not better quality, hiring from Cordoba Argentina?
- oceanplexian 3y agoBecause they already hired those people. There aren’t millions of super high skilled software engineers in Argentina or where ever, there are a limited quantity, and they are likely already employed somewhere.
- glimshe 3y agoTime Zone, English proficiency, familiar tax and legal regime and cultural affinity? When you get basically the same employee for 50% less, that's really appealing. The people in the "real low cost area" aren't the same employee - I'm not saying they are less capable, but most companies are afraid of the significant hidden costs when trying to go too cheap this way.