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Unity started as a game engine on macOS with monodevelop as the official IDE I think you overestimate the number of game developers who depend on Microsoft's t

Unity started as a game engine on macOS with monodevelop as the official IDE I think you overestimate the number of game developers who depend on Microsoft's tools, game engine devs who target Xbox/PS5/Switch, sure, vendor tools require windows, but for 1 engine dev, you find 100 game devs Besides, cross compilation is a solved issue nowadays, all it takes to target Linux, Windows, mobiles or console is a checkbox in Unity/Unreal/Godot https://steamdb.info/tech/ https://steamdb.info/tech/ This data speaks for itself DirectX 12 wasn't a huge success, except for Xbox; wich sells 3x less than both PS5 / Switch [1], you don't see it anywhere else Vulkan gets on on both Windows/Linux, but also Switch and Android, so if you are a small indie studio who work on your own engine, Vulkan makes a lot more sense .. and even cloud gaming ;) https://www.phoronix.com/news/Amazon-Linux-Graphics-Jobs https://www.phoronix.com/news/Amazon-Linux-Graphics-Jobs .. even for Ubisoft, even for their Windows release https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/rainbow-six/siege/news-updates/6VFn74oMO2nVQGZxvFhBb5 https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/rainbow-six/siege/news-up... [1] - https://www.vgchartz.com/ https://www.vgchartz.com/

novagameco 3y ago
I'm not talking about the industry in general, I'm talking about my personal preferences. I like to use C++ with Visual Studio and DirectX. I would hate to find myself in a position where I had to develop everything in Linux for compatibility reasons. I hate the fact that some web dev tools only run on Linux or Mac right now and I have to use WSL2 (bun), I would really hate to see game dev go the same direction. Personally, I like Windows as a platform and I don't go out of my way to target Linux or Mac
pjmlp 3y ago
> Unity started as a game engine on macOS with monodevelop as the official IDE It certainly did not. Unity only added Mono to their stack when they went cross platform, during their Mac OS X days, they only supported Boo and JavaScript for scripting.
- ffgjgf1 3y ago
  Boo ran on Mono though. Their flavor of JavaScript, UnityScript wasn’t even remotely similar to standard JS besides syntax, it also ran on Mono. I vaguely remember them trying Python initially but IIRC Boo and “JavaScript” were always based on Mono.
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    So I went into some archelogy, turns out we were both kind of right. Me less so. Unity 1.0 did not have .NET in the picture in 2005, however they went cross-platform already in Unity 2.0 around 2008, so Mono was anyway part of the story early on.

novagameco 3y ago

I'm not talking about the industry in general, I'm talking about my personal preferences. I like to use C++ with Visual Studio and DirectX. I would hate to find myself in a position where I had to develop everything in Linux for compatibility reasons. I hate the fact that some web dev tools only run on Linux or Mac right now and I have to use WSL2 (bun), I would really hate to see game dev go the same direction. Personally, I like Windows as a platform and I don't go out of my way to target Linux or Mac

pjmlp 3y ago

> Unity started as a game engine on macOS with monodevelop as the official IDE It certainly did not. Unity only added Mono to their stack when they went cross platform, during their Mac OS X days, they only supported Boo and JavaScript for scripting.

ffgjgf1 3y ago
Boo ran on Mono though. Their flavor of JavaScript, UnityScript wasn’t even remotely similar to standard JS besides syntax, it also ran on Mono. I vaguely remember them trying Python initially but IIRC Boo and “JavaScript” were always based on Mono.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  So I went into some archelogy, turns out we were both kind of right. Me less so. Unity 1.0 did not have .NET in the picture in 2005, however they went cross-platform already in Unity 2.0 around 2008, so Mono was anyway part of the story early on.