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Knowing the average SV interview loop too well, I can't imagine how many bad (for corporate type work) hires growing that fast brings in. A bunch of leetcode-ha
by shmatt 3y ago
Knowing the average SV interview loop too well, I can't imagine how many bad (for corporate type work) hires growing that fast brings in. A bunch of leetcode-hard optimized engineers being thrown into an organization that just grew from 200 to 1000 people.
If you are part of that 200 original group, you probably have a paycheck for another 5 years just answering tech debt questions
- autoexecbat 3y agoWhen hiring fast, there's also an element of "we'll find something for you to do", meaning that you're expected to find something yourself. This can lead to people becoming very narrow on something that the business doesn't really value
- nine_zeros 3y agoOr better yet, "We hired you to do some work" but at performance review time "tell us how you have made an impact" Dear company, I did what you asked me to do. If my work doesn't have adequate impact, that is on you for planning poorly.
- slt2021 3y agothats the meaning of working for engineering-driven company. Engineers are trusted to collaborate among themselves and drive feature roadmap, and to make an impact. Leadership doesnt trust non-engineers to handhold engineers and spoon feed feature requests, all non-engineer types should be focused on selling/marketing product or customer support
- kovezd 3y agoBrilliant! As if a solid feature roadmap doesn't require inputs from sales, marketing or customer support.
- slt2021 3y agowhat makes you think that engineering-driven cultures ignore or don't ask for input from sales/marketing/customer support? that's the collaboration part. But the final decision over prioritization of feature X over feature Y and planning is done by engineers, not salesmen
- nine_zeros 3y ago> what makes you think that engineering-driven cultures ignore or don't ask for input from sales/marketing/customer support? The part where managers who don't partake in these efforts refuse to believe engineering estimates, engineering challenges and unknown unknowns and yet feel empowered to blame engineers in performance reviews.
- Xeamek 3y agoThat's all fine and dandy when you are small, and have a bunch of generalists that will throw themselves at any problem there is. But when you grow to the point of having a sizeable middle management layer that isolates engineers from one another, by enforcing strict area of interest for each team, you really shouldn't call yourself "engineering driven" anymore. And also, the more you scale, the more specialists you need. Specialists that aren't able, or just aren't willing to move from place to place rapidly
- schwap 3y agoUnless your client base is exclusively the same kind of engineer employed by said company, how could that possibly work well?
- slt2021 3y agoGoggle started it, I think it worked well for 1.9 trillion company as gogel
- bluetomcat 3y agoIt sounds like a recipe for ruining a product and turning a company into a dysfunctional organisation. Onboarding 800 idle people prepared to reverse linked-lists :-)
- Ekaros 3y agoSeems like it ends up with lot features that few people asked. And then another bunch that no one asked. And then outright user hostile things like reworking entire UI time and again and somehow it being worse each time...
- Regnore 3y agoWell maybe they just have like a lot of linked lists that they need reversed? With that many people working in parallel you could really increase the throughput of the reversing process. Of course this is assuming that you previously hired people to identify and remove any cyclical nodes in those link lists.
- seanhunter 3y agoTell me, what's the big O of having the people working in parallel on the reversing? And as a follow-up, can you explain whether it is better if you have a team of n people doing the cycle detection to do it using a system which is eventually consistent or strongly consistent and why?
- TylerE 3y agoNow imagine if they opened those jobs to all of us in low cost of living areas instead of demanding in person presence. They'd get better people, and people like me would be getting a decent bump even if we were only getting 50 or 60% of SF salary.
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- TylerE 3y agoI mean, I certainly think me and my 23 years of experience is better than random body shop grads. I just have zero interest in relocating or playing the startup game.
- MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago[flagged]
- TylerE 3y agoYou're awful judgey of someone you've never met. If the problem is "we hired every warm body in a 50 mile radius, turns out a lot of 'em aren't really qualified", I don't see how bringing in even garden variety decent people from elsewhere doesn't bring the average up.
- DevAbdul 3y agodamn
- michpoch 3y agoWhy would they give you 50 or 60% of SF salary when they could hire someone in a real low cost area then?
- hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
- excord 3y agoDiscord interview questions are not your typical leetcode problems. Your premise is wrong.
- jonathankoren 3y agoThe graded lunch is dumb as fuck. “Do you play any video games?” “I’ve been playing a lot of KSP, but I’m not sold on KSP2 yet.” “Yeah, I don’t play that game.” STRONG REJECT
- excord 3y agoNever heard of that happening, and neither would you, since you do not see interview feedback. Please don't make up a story.
- jonathankoren 3y agoBwhahahahahahahahaha Anonymous shill calls named lived experience a liar. What a time to be alive!
- bananagoat 3y agoSo you did somehow get access to your interview feedback? And you’re sure that your lunch buddy gave you a strong reject and swayed every other interviewer who otherwise gave you a positive review?