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FWIW I rented an electric volvo in november and its built in map (displayed by default even if you weren't using its nav system, which I did not) displayed char

by gumby 3y ago

FWIW I rented an electric volvo in november and its built in map (displayed by default even if you weren't using its nav system, which I did not) displayed charger sites. As it happened my hotel had a charger in the parking garage and the valets plugged my car in for me. One anecdote does not data make, and I didn't know at the time of reservation that my hotel would be adequately equipped.

rondini 3y ago
As a second anecdote, I also rented one from Hertz (Polestar 2) and while it could navigate me to charging stations, at least 50% of the time I was unable to charge at a given location due to technical issues. It was bad enough that I had to divert 30 minutes off my planned route to find a working charger. I look forward to owning an EV someday but the rental experience right now and in my state was VERY stressful.
- pton_xd 3y ago
  I had the same experience... in Sunnyvale / SF, of all places! I was shocked at how bad the charging infrastructure is for non-Teslas.
  - mgiampapa 3y ago
    Level 2 Tesla destination chargers are everywhere in SV and you can use them with with any J1772 car using a simple adapter. There are now also adapters for fast charging Tesla connectors to CCS1, but that is relatively recent.
  - AlbertCory 3y ago
    Indeed: for awhile I was going to a place on Saratoga near Doyle in west San Jose, and they had a non-Tesla charging station in the parking lot. Almost always, every spot was occupied, even in the middle of a weekday.
akira2501 3y ago
Which city were you in?
- gumby 3y ago
  Austin
infamouscow 3y ago
The greatest barrier to EV adoption is the obstinance of early adopters that lack the capacity to understand why someone would use an ICE vehicle. Consequently, it hampers improvement in areas that need to be improved upon for wider EV adoption. It's quite ironic.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  At least one great barrier is the reactionary response to anything associated with 'liberal', including anything that has to do with climate change. IIRC there's a correlation between politics and EV purchases. If even Musk can't persuade other reactionaries ...
- AtlasBarfed 3y ago
  Naw, you just need to buy a PHEV. That is what YOU, special unique snowflake (non political variant) would like.
wannacboatmovie 3y ago
> my hotel had a charger in the parking garage and the valets plugged my car in for me So they just put the charging fee on your bill with the little bottles of gin from the minibar? I'm sure hotel power is reasonably priced...
- jliptzin 3y ago
  I have never been charged by a hotel to charge my car
  - wannacboatmovie 3y ago
    Power isn't free, you're paying for it somehow.
    - gnicholas 3y ago
      True, but in the sense that all guests subsidize EV users.
- gumby 3y ago
  It was included.

by gumby 3y ago

rondini 3y ago

As a second anecdote, I also rented one from Hertz (Polestar 2) and while it could navigate me to charging stations, at least 50% of the time I was unable to charge at a given location due to technical issues. It was bad enough that I had to divert 30 minutes off my planned route to find a working charger. I look forward to owning an EV someday but the rental experience right now and in my state was VERY stressful.

pton_xd 3y ago
I had the same experience... in Sunnyvale / SF, of all places! I was shocked at how bad the charging infrastructure is for non-Teslas.
- mgiampapa 3y ago
  Level 2 Tesla destination chargers are everywhere in SV and you can use them with with any J1772 car using a simple adapter. There are now also adapters for fast charging Tesla connectors to CCS1, but that is relatively recent.
- AlbertCory 3y ago
  Indeed: for awhile I was going to a place on Saratoga near Doyle in west San Jose, and they had a non-Tesla charging station in the parking lot. Almost always, every spot was occupied, even in the middle of a weekday.

akira2501 3y ago

Which city were you in?

gumby 3y ago
Austin

infamouscow 3y ago

The greatest barrier to EV adoption is the obstinance of early adopters that lack the capacity to understand why someone would use an ICE vehicle. Consequently, it hampers improvement in areas that need to be improved upon for wider EV adoption. It's quite ironic.

wolverine876 3y ago
At least one great barrier is the reactionary response to anything associated with 'liberal', including anything that has to do with climate change. IIRC there's a correlation between politics and EV purchases. If even Musk can't persuade other reactionaries ...
AtlasBarfed 3y ago
Naw, you just need to buy a PHEV. That is what YOU, special unique snowflake (non political variant) would like.

wannacboatmovie 3y ago

> my hotel had a charger in the parking garage and the valets plugged my car in for me So they just put the charging fee on your bill with the little bottles of gin from the minibar? I'm sure hotel power is reasonably priced...

jliptzin 3y ago
I have never been charged by a hotel to charge my car
- wannacboatmovie 3y ago
  Power isn't free, you're paying for it somehow.
  - gnicholas 3y ago
    True, but in the sense that all guests subsidize EV users.
gumby 3y ago
It was included.