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Extremely unlikely. The types of GPUs these compete against don't cost a lot of money.
by mirsadm 3y ago
Extremely unlikely. The types of GPUs these compete against don't cost a lot of money.
- Dalewyn 3y agoAn RTX 4060 (with a pitiful 8GB vram) is about $300. Something a bit more practical like an RTX 4070 (with 12GB vram) is about $550. That is bullshit expensive. It's still nowhere near as bad as during the cryptomining craze, but remember a GTX 1080 MSRP'd for about $430 back in the old days. An RTX 4080 for context is around $1,500 to $2,000 right now. If I'm just looking to game and only have a reasonable budget like most people, I'll just grab some AMD APU and be done with it. Better yet just go and buy a console or game on my phone.
- BenjiWiebe 3y agoHow do the best integrated graphics compare performance-wise though? If they are way behind in performance, you might be able to buy a cheap 2GB VRAM GPU for less than a cutting edge integrated graphics CPU.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago> you might be able to buy a cheap 2GB VRAM GPU Lol? It's another ~$100 what would not yield you any performance gains. Older 5700G was ~$300 so it was hardly a part of a budget build, but 5 5500GT is $125 (and would probably drop below $100 in a half/year) and would clearly offer at least 30fps on FullHD[0] and you would buy it anyway because it's a CPU. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-5600g-review/3 https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-5600g-revie...
- Dalewyn 3y ago>and you would buy it anyway because it's a CPU. This is the part that needs to be emphasized more, that iGPU is practically free because it comes with the CPU we're buying anyway. It's already hard enough to compete with free, but on top of that dGPUs are asking for Keksimus Maximus monies. The value proposition for gamers, let alone most consumer users, is very strongly favored towards iGPUs.
- DeathArrow 3y agoNothing is free. That CPU was going to be cheaper if if didn't include an iGPU. Free means you aren't going to pay anything.
- justsomehnguy 3y agoCurrent difference between AMD Ryzen 5 5600 OEM and AMD Ryzen 5 5600G OEM near me is less than $8.
- Dalewyn 3y agoI said practically free.
- yourusername 3y agoYou can buy remanufactured RX580 8GB from aliexpress for $65. For $100 you can get a used Vega56 or a GTX 1070.
- sofixa 3y ago> How do the best integrated graphics compare performance-wise though A bunch of handhelds (Steam Deck , Asus ROG Ally) that can comfortably run even AAA games with 30fps+ on small screens (as an example Red Dead Redemption 2 runs with 50fps on my LCD Deck) with battery and thermal limitations would imply that desktop versions would be totally acceptable, unless you're looking at 4K on the latest big titles.
- BirAdam 3y agoThe best integrated graphics are about equivalent to a 1650. This assumes that the machine also has decently speedy RAM.
- whatwhaaaaat 3y agoYour last sentence clearly shows you are not a pc gamer which is fine but you cannot use a persons opinion who is not a pc gamer about .. pc gamers.
- bryanlarsen 3y agoLots of PC gamers are very happy with "slightly better than Steam Deck" levels of performance.
- Arrath 3y agoYo! I tolerate relatively poor performance out of my laptop (a several year old model with a Ryzen and iGPU) while having a fairly kickass home desktop[0]. So chalk me in that group. [0]Which currently sees me playing a whole bunch of Rule the Waves 3..... poor underutilized 3080.
- wmf 3y agoThe 4060 is really bad though. I would guess that a 12100F + A750 or 6600 XT would be faster than the 8700G with its "extreme" graphics.
- zokier 3y agoMore appropriate comparison point would be something like Arc A580 which retails around $180 and is already dramatically faster than this igpu.
- snvzz 3y ago>An RTX 4060 (with a pitiful 8GB vram) is about $300. Remember that AMD Radeon 7600XT (16GB vram, faster than 4060) is a dramatically better option than that, at $330.
- Dalewyn 3y agoPersonally, I do not even acknowledge AMD exists because: * Their naming scheme is undiluted nonsense. * Their software is jank, which makes their hardware also jank. * I don't have time for jank anymore; I'm an ancient geezer in his mid-thirties, not a teenager with acne and far too much time I need to waste. * They aren't providing any meaningful competition to Nvidia nor Intel with regards to pricing.
- hulitu 3y agoThey work in linux.
- toast0 3y agoIf you want to buy new (which I don't think is unreasonable), there's not much in the market that doesn't cost a lot of money. Maybe a Radeon 6500XT or a Arc A380; Geforce 1650 are still kind of a lot of money, and you're looking at at Geforce 1030 if you want something for not a lot of money. But why buy a Geforce 1030, unless you really just need something low profile.
- snvzz 3y ago>Radeon 6500XT ... has similar performance than 480/580 or what's expected from these APUs. The APU is cheaper overall, uses less power (even cheaper!), and has a clear upgrade path (add beefy discrete GPU or otherwise replace with newer APU).