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Oh please, if you’ve interacted at all with a video game community in the last decade you know this kind of humor is alive and well…

LAC-Tech 3y ago
It is, but it will get you banned. Has no one else noticed the rise of censorship evading slang among zoomers? Eg saying "unalive" instead of "kill". I remember there was a big file with a bunch of these for chinese youth I found fascinating some 15 years ago. And now we have to do it too.
- redcobra762 3y ago
  Oh yeah because burdening children with the challenges of… using slightly different words… is a real shame.
  - LAC-Tech 3y ago
    Are you saying censorship is fine because people can just use other words? There really is no point engaging with you then.
    - sph 3y ago
      It's not censorship, it's new^H^H^Hbetterspeak (tm). A more friendly and inclusive version of the English language.
    - redcobra762 3y ago
      You call it censorship, I call it freedom of association. These are private organizations deciding what they allow on their own platforms. But more importantly the “kind of humor” your originally highlighted is absolutely alive, as evidenced by your own point that people use words to get around whatever censorship there is of the most extreme versions of that humor.
      - LAC-Tech 3y ago
        The older I get the less useful I think this distinction between "official" and "unofficial" is. "Officially" King Charles can dissolve the UK parliament, but "unofficially" he can't. Power is power and we know it when we see it. So yes I would call being banned or having your language limited by major global platforms "censorship", despite the fact that officially they're just private organisations.
        redcobra762 3y ago
        You're just saying you only care about some people's rights and not others. Part of the 1a and the general concept of freedom is that you don't have to put up with people saying stupid shit everywhere, such as in your own home.
        LAC-Tech 3y ago
        "My own home" and "twitter" are very different in scope.
        redcobra762 3y ago
        How? What about a bar? A stadium? Is it just the number of people to you, then? If I can pack enough people who agree with me into a field, do I now own that field? You either agree that people who own things get to decide how those things are used, or you think that people don't get to own things. There's no "well, a lot of people use this thing" exception to property ownership. Or, I guess you could try to nationalize the space since so many people use it, but I'm guessing "as you get older" any form of government is objectionable, despite this being exactly what you seem to want.
      - evandale 3y ago
        Why do you believe that private corporations should be more powerful than the government?
        3y ago
- Kronopath 3y ago
  The similarity to China isn’t a coincidence. This is all coming from the cultural dominance of TikTok among young people, which (to my knowledge) algorithmically downranks any content that has those words in them. It’s a common Chinese strategy, born of Chinese censorship requirements, which TikTok naturally used when presented with similar-enough problems outside of China.
  - LAC-Tech 3y ago
    This goes far beyond TikTok. Twitch, Youtube, the jurisdictions of Canada, the UK, Australia... this is one thing I'm not willing to blame China for, I am just noting how close it is the same thing that China does.
- sph 3y ago
  It's probably from the era of content silo algorithms that really do not like and punish your content for saying certain words, like COVID-19 in mid 2020, or "dead" today (I seem to recall a YouTuber having to beep himself saying that word very recently) These kids grow and learn with Youtube after all. Don't blame zoomers, blame American puritanism in tech.
  - LAC-Tech 3y ago
    I'm not blaming zoomers, no more than I am blaming chinese youth who have to talk about "aquatic producers" to avoid being censored for even discussing censorship. Ironically I tried looking for a list of officially banned words on twitch. All I found was journalist spam 'summarising' and telling me how I should feel about it. One site had a list of 50 words, all of which they censored, literally: - N-word - F-word - C-word - S-word - T-word When I scrolled to the end ( "A*kissing" ), I got a newsletter popup.

LAC-Tech 3y ago

It is, but it will get you banned. Has no one else noticed the rise of censorship evading slang among zoomers? Eg saying "unalive" instead of "kill". I remember there was a big file with a bunch of these for chinese youth I found fascinating some 15 years ago. And now we have to do it too.

redcobra762 3y ago
Oh yeah because burdening children with the challenges of… using slightly different words… is a real shame.
- LAC-Tech 3y ago
  Are you saying censorship is fine because people can just use other words? There really is no point engaging with you then.
  - sph 3y ago
    It's not censorship, it's new^H^H^Hbetterspeak (tm). A more friendly and inclusive version of the English language.
  - redcobra762 3y ago
    You call it censorship, I call it freedom of association. These are private organizations deciding what they allow on their own platforms. But more importantly the “kind of humor” your originally highlighted is absolutely alive, as evidenced by your own point that people use words to get around whatever censorship there is of the most extreme versions of that humor.
    - LAC-Tech 3y ago
      The older I get the less useful I think this distinction between "official" and "unofficial" is. "Officially" King Charles can dissolve the UK parliament, but "unofficially" he can't. Power is power and we know it when we see it. So yes I would call being banned or having your language limited by major global platforms "censorship", despite the fact that officially they're just private organisations.
      - redcobra762 3y ago
        You're just saying you only care about some people's rights and not others. Part of the 1a and the general concept of freedom is that you don't have to put up with people saying stupid shit everywhere, such as in your own home.
        LAC-Tech 3y ago
        "My own home" and "twitter" are very different in scope.
        redcobra762 3y ago
        How? What about a bar? A stadium? Is it just the number of people to you, then? If I can pack enough people who agree with me into a field, do I now own that field? You either agree that people who own things get to decide how those things are used, or you think that people don't get to own things. There's no "well, a lot of people use this thing" exception to property ownership. Or, I guess you could try to nationalize the space since so many people use it, but I'm guessing "as you get older" any form of government is objectionable, despite this being exactly what you seem to want.
    - evandale 3y ago
      Why do you believe that private corporations should be more powerful than the government?
      - 3y ago
Kronopath 3y ago
The similarity to China isn’t a coincidence. This is all coming from the cultural dominance of TikTok among young people, which (to my knowledge) algorithmically downranks any content that has those words in them. It’s a common Chinese strategy, born of Chinese censorship requirements, which TikTok naturally used when presented with similar-enough problems outside of China.
- LAC-Tech 3y ago
  This goes far beyond TikTok. Twitch, Youtube, the jurisdictions of Canada, the UK, Australia... this is one thing I'm not willing to blame China for, I am just noting how close it is the same thing that China does.
sph 3y ago
It's probably from the era of content silo algorithms that really do not like and punish your content for saying certain words, like COVID-19 in mid 2020, or "dead" today (I seem to recall a YouTuber having to beep himself saying that word very recently) These kids grow and learn with Youtube after all. Don't blame zoomers, blame American puritanism in tech.
- LAC-Tech 3y ago
  I'm not blaming zoomers, no more than I am blaming chinese youth who have to talk about "aquatic producers" to avoid being censored for even discussing censorship. Ironically I tried looking for a list of officially banned words on twitch. All I found was journalist spam 'summarising' and telling me how I should feel about it. One site had a list of 50 words, all of which they censored, literally: - N-word - F-word - C-word - S-word - T-word When I scrolled to the end ( "A*kissing" ), I got a newsletter popup.