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Keep thinking beyond the immediate for another step and you will see how harming self esteem means a person won’t productively alter their behavior. It’s in th
by redcobra762 3y ago
Keep thinking beyond the immediate for another step and you will see how harming self esteem means a person won’t productively alter their behavior. It’s in the literature I’ve cited if you’re actually curious.
And you made a value judgement about the people who end up in jail/prison, which was completely uncalled for.
- Eisenstein 3y agoYou know that things can be bad sometimes and not bad some other times? Shaming people to make them feel bad is not good; however feeling shame for having done something wrong is good -- it motivates one to avoid doing that again. > And you made a value judgement about the people who end up in jail/prison, which was completely uncalled for. You are being silly.
- redcobra762 3y agoSo you admit that shame can be bad? Then you’re close. Next you need to realize that shame’s effectiveness is dependent on a person feeling shame the way you want them to. But that’s not how it actually works, is it? Instead, shame is sourced from the judgements of others, so one way of effectively mitigating shame is to hide the behavior from others, rather than stopping it. So shame is ineffective. And I’m not being silly. You tried to dismiss the legitimacy of my citation by dismissing an entire category of people. That was inconsiderate.