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I'm not a specialist in the region, and maybe you are. I also don't like WP that much. But there's no talk about territories to be ceded in the article at all.

I'm not a specialist in the region, and maybe you are. I also don't like WP that much. But there's no talk about territories to be ceded in the article at all. It mentions leasing of 12 miles. It also doesn't seem to take sides, or make any far-fetching claims, it doesn't claim also that the agreement is destined to be successful. So I find it hard to understand what exactly makes it "horribly written". On a side note: personally I have no idea what changed with Somalian gov't since 2011, but virtually all sources say it still controls lesser part of internationally recognized territory, and its existence is impossible without external forces on the ground. The definition of weak is pretty stretchy, but certainly it doesn't look strong.

Maxamillion96 3y ago
> But there's no talk about territories to be ceded in the article at all. It mentions leasing of 12 miles. This doesn’t particularly matter since all of the potential ports are in unionist territory, but most Somali and Amharic sources say that it is Lughaye. > It also doesn't seem to take sides, or make any far-fetching claims It does both, first by the people it cites,and then by claiming that Ethiopia would both delegitimize itself and tear up the charter of the African Union by recognizing a Somaliland, a claim that Ethiopia has walked back already. > On a side note: personally I have no idea what changed with Somalian gov't since 2011, but virtually all sources say it still controls lesser part of internationally recognized territory, and its existence is impossible without external forces on the ground. 2011 was 12 years ago. The Somali government and more importantly the Federal States control the majority of the territory of the Somali republic. Given that the majority of the “external forces” withdrew last year and the Somali government hasn’t fallen yet, I would urge you to read something more up-to-date.

Maxamillion96 3y ago

> But there's no talk about territories to be ceded in the article at all. It mentions leasing of 12 miles. This doesn’t particularly matter since all of the potential ports are in unionist territory, but most Somali and Amharic sources say that it is Lughaye. > It also doesn't seem to take sides, or make any far-fetching claims It does both, first by the people it cites,and then by claiming that Ethiopia would both delegitimize itself and tear up the charter of the African Union by recognizing a Somaliland, a claim that Ethiopia has walked back already. > On a side note: personally I have no idea what changed with Somalian gov't since 2011, but virtually all sources say it still controls lesser part of internationally recognized territory, and its existence is impossible without external forces on the ground. 2011 was 12 years ago. The Somali government and more importantly the Federal States control the majority of the territory of the Somali republic. Given that the majority of the “external forces” withdrew last year and the Somali government hasn’t fallen yet, I would urge you to read something more up-to-date.