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This is the worst of it. All of googles' top suggestions, highlights, and whatever other garbage they put in the top two scroll pages, is just junk. Garbage.

by b112 3y ago

This is the worst of it. All of googles' top suggestions, highlights, and whatever other garbage they put in the top two scroll pages, is just junk. Garbage. It's right perhaps 5% of the time for me. So not only do I have to hunt through their horrible search results, I have to hunt through junk they add on top of that. The sad part is, their buffoonery in aliasing words is 90% of the problem. No, I searched for David, not Dave. No, I searched for Debian, not Ubuntu. On and on, unless I use verbatim, I get nothing even remotely useful. It's like Google is completely disconnected from the real world. I bet they don't even dogfood. They probably have a Google Employee search that actually works, and doesn't alias or something. I wonder what startling revelations Google would have, if they flew to the middle of Missouri, told people how to use verbatim, and then saw the wondrous expressions of "oh, it works now?" in grandmas. They blew the AI game, screwing around, messing about, giving up a decade lead on OpenAI. They're destroying their search engine, their brand, with this junky, modern lack of effort. They're making gmail less and less friendly, losing cherished photos of loved ones in Google Drive, their entire Pii based income stream is coming to an end, frankly, Google is done, unless they do something dramatic. They're on the path to becoming IBM. A washed up has been, ruminating on past glories. They should be hiring right now. Massive amounts of talent is being set free, they should scoop them up, and reap 5 year research and dev rewards. They have the excess capital... now, something they will lose soon. But no. Onward, we march into oblivious irrelevance, says they! Yay!

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tavavex 3y ago
It kind of baffles me how people spent the last 15 years or so generating a black hole's worth of SEO content, but Google is at the forefront of "being at fault" for it now. Google has no real incentive to make their product suck for no reason, but SEO people have a never-changing reason to try and break Google. The point of SEO is delivering your content to a user through search results, no matter if it's actually relevant to anything. It's not (mainly) Google. It's that SEO won.
- b112 3y ago
  It's not (mainly) Google. It's that SEO won. Poppycock. SEO was a thing 25 years ago. It's the same now, as it was then, it's merely that Google has vastly reduced efforts to maintain their product. It's not that SEO won, it's that Google doesn't care. One way they don't care, is apparent with their ridiculous query aliasing, and spewing pages of random junk before you can even scroll down to actual search results. Google is a has been, focusing on short term profits. They deserve to go EOL.
  - tavavex 3y ago
    > SEO was a thing 25 years ago. It's the same now, as it was then SEO is the same as it was 25 years ago? Do you remember anything resembling modern content mills in 1999? It always kept on evolving, and there's vastly more money dumped into it today than the 90s could ever dream of. Algorithmically generating content became easier and it got more "believable" to a search engine bot. Again, putting useless search results at the top doesn't benefit Google in any way, not even the short-term profits. It's the telltale sign of SEO garbage because they have an incentive to game the system, while Google has no incentive to make the system less useful. They likely made some bad choices along the way, but 80% of my issues with Google are outside actors trying to make it useless.
    - b112 3y ago
      As you said, tech has evolved... but on both sides. And your tact is weird, you seem to claim Google has no reason to improve search?? So, you're agreeing with me, that they aren't trying to keep up? Well, they should have incentives, it's called user retention. And they are so very complacent, it's hilarious. Here we have, one of the most dramatic shifts in search engine technology in decades, as AI iterates crazy fast, and they're sitting on their past achievements, and hoping user stickiness wins. Look at how fast Firefox went from the dominant browser to barely existent. Things can shift in the blink of an eye. Today, more than anything, Google needs to be at the top of its game. Bing is fast becoming far far better than Google Search, and they can pull in crazy user numbers if they wish. Microsoft has a big bag of cash, and could pay Firefox, Apple, and a dozen other competitors when they deem strike time is a go. Google, comparatively, seems in a decadent daze of debilitating dormant dreams, damned to derlictness.

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tavavex 3y ago

It kind of baffles me how people spent the last 15 years or so generating a black hole's worth of SEO content, but Google is at the forefront of "being at fault" for it now. Google has no real incentive to make their product suck for no reason, but SEO people have a never-changing reason to try and break Google. The point of SEO is delivering your content to a user through search results, no matter if it's actually relevant to anything. It's not (mainly) Google. It's that SEO won.

b112 3y ago
It's not (mainly) Google. It's that SEO won. Poppycock. SEO was a thing 25 years ago. It's the same now, as it was then, it's merely that Google has vastly reduced efforts to maintain their product. It's not that SEO won, it's that Google doesn't care. One way they don't care, is apparent with their ridiculous query aliasing, and spewing pages of random junk before you can even scroll down to actual search results. Google is a has been, focusing on short term profits. They deserve to go EOL.
- tavavex 3y ago
  > SEO was a thing 25 years ago. It's the same now, as it was then SEO is the same as it was 25 years ago? Do you remember anything resembling modern content mills in 1999? It always kept on evolving, and there's vastly more money dumped into it today than the 90s could ever dream of. Algorithmically generating content became easier and it got more "believable" to a search engine bot. Again, putting useless search results at the top doesn't benefit Google in any way, not even the short-term profits. It's the telltale sign of SEO garbage because they have an incentive to game the system, while Google has no incentive to make the system less useful. They likely made some bad choices along the way, but 80% of my issues with Google are outside actors trying to make it useless.
  - b112 3y ago
    As you said, tech has evolved... but on both sides. And your tact is weird, you seem to claim Google has no reason to improve search?? So, you're agreeing with me, that they aren't trying to keep up? Well, they should have incentives, it's called user retention. And they are so very complacent, it's hilarious. Here we have, one of the most dramatic shifts in search engine technology in decades, as AI iterates crazy fast, and they're sitting on their past achievements, and hoping user stickiness wins. Look at how fast Firefox went from the dominant browser to barely existent. Things can shift in the blink of an eye. Today, more than anything, Google needs to be at the top of its game. Bing is fast becoming far far better than Google Search, and they can pull in crazy user numbers if they wish. Microsoft has a big bag of cash, and could pay Firefox, Apple, and a dozen other competitors when they deem strike time is a go. Google, comparatively, seems in a decadent daze of debilitating dormant dreams, damned to derlictness.