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This is also known as the dead internet theory, which sounded a bit stupid before 2023: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory https://en.wikipedia
by novagameco 3y ago
This is also known as the dead internet theory, which sounded a bit stupid before 2023:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory
> The dead Internet theory is an online conspiracy theory that asserts that the Internet now consists mainly of bot activity and automatically generated content that is manipulated by algorithmic curation, marginalizing organic human activity. Proponents of the theory believe these bots are created intentionally to help manipulate algorithms and boost search results in order to ultimately manipulate consumers
World Wide Web search results outside of walled garden platforms like youtube or facebook (and, really, even within those platforms) have run into a kind of kessler syndrome where the amount of garbage on the web has made it increasingly difficult to get anything done on it. Eventually we may find that we can't trust anything we read on the internet anymore, and abandon the world wide web entirely (opting instead to spend all of our time on proprietary walled garden systems we do trust). Perhaps we will be required to use some form of identification (you driver's license or SSN, as in South Korea) to access such services (unless that can be easily defeated by an AI as well).
I was surprised that, when ChatGPT came out, the immediate concern people had was skynet-tier apocalypse fantasy, in which roving bands of machines walk the earth, searching for humans to exterminate like in BLAME! It shows that the people who work on these AI systems understand their implications about as much as Richard Hammond understood the power of genetic engineering in Jurassic Park. Their entire worldview is painted by Science Fiction. Their understanding of the human race lacks any kind of grounding in reality. They believed that what they had released was the first baby step which could, potentially, result in the downfall of the human race in several decades if we're not careful, but they fell victim to the same "move fast and break things" motto that Facebook did. They didn't consider the immediate destructive power their technology would release because they consider "disruption" to be a fundamentally good thing. Their only concern was avoiding hypothetical possibilities posited by their favorite science fiction authors and not the real eventualities predicted by economists.
I found it much more likely that AI will disrupt systems we rely on, wielded by humans for short term profit motive: ecommerce, news, media, and the labor economy. Malicious actors promoting scam products or yellow journalism, middle managers trying to cut labor cost by replacing easily automated jobs like copywriting with LLMs. I think we are more likely to shoot ourselves in the head with AI in pursuit of a single quarter's earnings report than we are to see Silicon based lifeforms wander the planet looking for carbon based matter to consume
- flyinghamster 3y agoI never really thought it was stupid, more that it was hyperbole - but very mild hyperbole with a solid basis in reality. The endless tide of email spam would be a good example where the theory rings true.
- novagameco 3y agoI think the stupid part is the idea that the government was intentionally ruining the internet. I also think that around 2016 and 2017, bot spam was pretty easy for anybody with a frontal lobe to detect. The problems we saw in the 2016 election with fake news was markov-chain generated articles with explosive headlines about Hillary Clinton: the headline sounded real, the domain name sounded like a real news publication, and skimming the site it looked like a real wordpress site. However, if you read any of the content for more than 10 seconds you would realize that it was barely English and was generated by a very rudimentary bot that any CS freshman could cobble together. Their only advantage was relying on the fact that most people on the internet only read headlines. To believe, at that point, that the majority of interactions on the internet were these kind of stone age systems, was pure paranoia. Today the situation is different. LLMs are capable of making content which is only verifiably AI generated with a few tell-tale signs as well as good old fashioned fact-checking. I dread this election year in the US because it will be so so so much easier for Russia or China to spread even more convincing misinformation automatically. They could create armies of bots which hold intense arguments with each other and have every reply seem logically sound.
- HPsquared 3y agoIt's the "grey goo" scenario playing out in cyberspace.
- 7thaccount 3y agoNeed to bring back Encarta ;) Jk. Wikipedia is much larger and better as an encyclopedia.
- TrackerFF 3y agoEven closed platforms like FB is dogshit now. Click on any story, and the comment section is 80% bots. Doesn't mater if it's serious users like NYT, CNN, or whatever. I've also noticed a huge uptick in spammy pages and groups that pump out AI generated pictures and stories, with nothing but bots upvoting and commenting the content. These days I only use FB for private hobby groups, and messenger to talk with friends and family.