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No? It will just widen the gap between code monkeys and actual developers who build scalable systems. It seems like these takes are only espoused by those with

No? It will just widen the gap between code monkeys and actual developers who build scalable systems. It seems like these takes are only espoused by those with nieve or little to no experience in software development.

wonderwonder 3y ago
This is an odd thing to say when its actually happening in the real world. People are getting laid off and replaced with AI. I guess all of the leaders at those businesses though are" naive or little to no experience in software development." I have actually been present in a meeting and watched in real time where someone demoed an LLM that absolutely replaced the need to keep several engineers. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/16/ai-job-losses-are-rising-but-the-numbers-dont-tell-the-full-story.html#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20recent%20report%20of%20750%20business%20leaders%20using,2024%20resulting%20from%20AI%20efficiency https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/16/ai-job-losses-are-rising-but....
- halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
  There is no way to quantify "software development losses from AI" versus post-COVID hiring frenzy layoffs and cheap capital becoming more expensive. Any definitive statement claiming such is purely conjecture. No companies who are doing layoffs are saying "we're laying off developers because AI", everyone who is drawing those conclusions are making assumptions. AI can automate other menial, clerical stuff, but making that stretch to software development isn't founded. ChatGPT and friends coincidentally started gaining traction as the economy started cooling off. Rather than drawing casual inferences to AI, it's much more likely that companies are laying off because of the latter rather than AI.
  - wonderwonder 3y ago
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/09/tech/duolingo-layoffs-due-to-ai/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/09/tech/duolingo-layoffs-due-to-...
    - halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
      > AI-related changes in how content is generated and shared This has to do with them leveraging AI for their product, not replacing software developers writing code. They also didn't fire any full-timers, so I fail to see how this fits your assertions.
      - wonderwonder 3y ago
        Its the beginning. I do hope I'm wrong but I dont think either of us knows the future.
        halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
        The difference is I'm not out here making grandiose statements, acting like I do know.
        wonderwonder 3y ago
        Welcome to the internet. Not sure me saying "I have a feeling this is going to continue as AI / LLM's become more capable" is a grandiose statement; I think you may be overreacting but whatevs. I'm sorry you are so angry friend, all the best. Wishing you happiness.
        halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
        > I don't see how it and similar LLM's don't lead to massive replacement of tech workers and creatives. ...ok

wonderwonder 3y ago

This is an odd thing to say when its actually happening in the real world. People are getting laid off and replaced with AI. I guess all of the leaders at those businesses though are" naive or little to no experience in software development." I have actually been present in a meeting and watched in real time where someone demoed an LLM that absolutely replaced the need to keep several engineers. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/16/ai-job-losses-are-rising-but-the-numbers-dont-tell-the-full-story.html#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20recent%20report%20of%20750%20business%20leaders%20using,2024%20resulting%20from%20AI%20efficiency https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/16/ai-job-losses-are-rising-but....

halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
There is no way to quantify "software development losses from AI" versus post-COVID hiring frenzy layoffs and cheap capital becoming more expensive. Any definitive statement claiming such is purely conjecture. No companies who are doing layoffs are saying "we're laying off developers because AI", everyone who is drawing those conclusions are making assumptions. AI can automate other menial, clerical stuff, but making that stretch to software development isn't founded. ChatGPT and friends coincidentally started gaining traction as the economy started cooling off. Rather than drawing casual inferences to AI, it's much more likely that companies are laying off because of the latter rather than AI.
- wonderwonder 3y ago
  https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/09/tech/duolingo-layoffs-due-to-ai/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/09/tech/duolingo-layoffs-due-to-...
  - halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
    > AI-related changes in how content is generated and shared This has to do with them leveraging AI for their product, not replacing software developers writing code. They also didn't fire any full-timers, so I fail to see how this fits your assertions.
    - wonderwonder 3y ago
      Its the beginning. I do hope I'm wrong but I dont think either of us knows the future.
      - halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
        The difference is I'm not out here making grandiose statements, acting like I do know.
        wonderwonder 3y ago
        Welcome to the internet. Not sure me saying "I have a feeling this is going to continue as AI / LLM's become more capable" is a grandiose statement; I think you may be overreacting but whatevs. I'm sorry you are so angry friend, all the best. Wishing you happiness.
        halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
        > I don't see how it and similar LLM's don't lead to massive replacement of tech workers and creatives. ...ok