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can't they just put all the quotes on wikipedia or twitter or something

by vanjajaja1 3y ago

nosrepa 3y ago
It's all on archive.org
- Bitemenow 3y ago
  https://bashforever.com/ https://bashforever.com/
ricardo81 3y ago
far better off as an independent entity beyond those centralised place's ever changing rules.
- hn92726819 3y ago
  Is it? It was its own private entity and now it's offline probably forever. Edit: I think it'd be far better off on Wikipedia than Twitter
  - viraptor 3y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38950912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38950912 Mirrors still exist (Also, Twitter already deleted old data, so these quotes wouldn't be much safer there)
    - hn92726819 3y ago
      Backed up on centralized gitlab and centralized archive.org, huh? My point is that the comment was praising independent services when it doesn't make sense: bash.org, the independent service, shutting down and people want to store backups in a more trustworthy centralized service, much like the two backups you linked.
  - ricardo81 3y ago
    Yes, for the reason mentioned but also because it has a longer lifespan than Wikipedia and Twitter to date.
Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
Wikipedia deletionists would cull it. Twitter is going down the drain if you believe the popular opinions but it would mess up the formatting anyway.
- themaninthedark 3y ago
  Wikiquotes?
nayuki 3y ago
Wikipedia isn't an appropriate place for Bash quotes because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia about broad concepts. Also, Wikipedia as a policy is not a primary source. Wikiquotes could be appropriate. Submitting a dump of the entire database to Archive.org could be appropriate. (For example, Archive.org hosts user-submitted dumps of things like product manuals, old TV shows, old computer games.)
- perryprog 3y ago
  Considering the quotes have an unknown, and almost certainly not public domain or CC BY-SA license[1], they wouldn't be appropriate for any Wikimedia project. [1] And even if submitting required licensing the contribution under some Wikimedia-friendly license, considering each person included in a quote would also have to agree to such a license... and I have a feeling bloodninja wasn't following up their conversations with "would you mind sending me a signed release of the above six (6) messages under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license version 3.0?"
astrodust 3y ago
Twitter itself got deleted.

can't they just put all the quotes on wikipedia or twitter or something

nosrepa 3y ago

It's all on archive.org

Bitemenow 3y ago
https://bashforever.com/ https://bashforever.com/

ricardo81 3y ago

far better off as an independent entity beyond those centralised place's ever changing rules.

hn92726819 3y ago
Is it? It was its own private entity and now it's offline probably forever. Edit: I think it'd be far better off on Wikipedia than Twitter
- viraptor 3y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38950912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38950912 Mirrors still exist (Also, Twitter already deleted old data, so these quotes wouldn't be much safer there)
  - hn92726819 3y ago
    Backed up on centralized gitlab and centralized archive.org, huh? My point is that the comment was praising independent services when it doesn't make sense: bash.org, the independent service, shutting down and people want to store backups in a more trustworthy centralized service, much like the two backups you linked.
- ricardo81 3y ago
  Yes, for the reason mentioned but also because it has a longer lifespan than Wikipedia and Twitter to date.

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago

Wikipedia deletionists would cull it. Twitter is going down the drain if you believe the popular opinions but it would mess up the formatting anyway.

themaninthedark 3y ago
Wikiquotes?

nayuki 3y ago

Wikipedia isn't an appropriate place for Bash quotes because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia about broad concepts. Also, Wikipedia as a policy is not a primary source. Wikiquotes could be appropriate. Submitting a dump of the entire database to Archive.org could be appropriate. (For example, Archive.org hosts user-submitted dumps of things like product manuals, old TV shows, old computer games.)

perryprog 3y ago
Considering the quotes have an unknown, and almost certainly not public domain or CC BY-SA license[1], they wouldn't be appropriate for any Wikimedia project. [1] And even if submitting required licensing the contribution under some Wikimedia-friendly license, considering each person included in a quote would also have to agree to such a license... and I have a feeling bloodninja wasn't following up their conversations with "would you mind sending me a signed release of the above six (6) messages under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license version 3.0?"

astrodust 3y ago

Twitter itself got deleted.