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> That "liberty and incentive" is extremely unevenly distributed Absolutely. I said in high growth phases, it may be beneficial for employees to not organize.
by trashtester 3y ago
> That "liberty and incentive" is extremely unevenly distributed
Absolutely. I said in high growth phases, it may be beneficial for employees to not organize. Once an industry stabilizes, that may change. The German model has certainly been working much better for automotive and other established industries.
But even developers who have not been able to get into FAANG positions, US developer salaries are still higher than German ones, as far as I can tell. And for the ones that did get into FAANG, the difference is vast, even for entry level.
- Apocryphon 3y agoU.S. developer salaries are also higher than in Japan and over developed salaries, even if those labor markets aren't exactly known for unionization, either.
- trashtester 3y agoFair enough, though it is possible to get the effects of a union without a union, if worker-employee relationship resembles a feudal lord-serf relationship, where the serf is bound to the lord for life, but the lord is also responsible for covering the basic needs of the serf. Obviously, Japan, China and Korea come from quite different circumstances to Europe and the US in a multitude of ways.
- Apocryphon 3y agoThat’s also what corporations were like in the U.S. up until the 1980s. Being lifers and having stability was commonplace.