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It’s just business. And it’s not like swe aren’t making 400k or more at least in bay area. People need to understand that just because you have a little bit of

by lgkk 3y ago

It’s just business. And it’s not like swe aren’t making 400k or more at least in bay area. People need to understand that just because you have a little bit of RSUs and a 200k base doesn’t mean you’re God. You’re an asset like a machine. And you’re expensive to the bottom line. This is literally explicitly laid out now with section 174. If you’re taking this personally ask yourself why you’re even working for arguably some of the best most efficient capitalists on the planet. Maybe you should work for a government agency or smaller company. But you want that 400k plus right?

GoToRO 3y ago
But we are a family!
ngcazz 3y ago
That salary is a reflection of market forces. The fundamentals remain the same: they are workers who support families of arbitrary needs and complexities and not just themselves. Are they expensive to the bottom line? Good -- they _allow_ the bottom line because they are the ones generating value. Not the shareholders and upper managers calling for layoffs to maximize their stock prices who you seem to appreciate more.
- lgkk 3y ago
  I’m just pointing out reality. Sorry I know it’s not “kind” or whatever. Just true though. If someone makes a Faustian bargain, it will have consequences. You make a deal with the devil (biggest capitalist empires on the planet - I don’t think they’re evil btw I’m just making analogy) and the devil will come for you. For them, it’s just business. That’s their whole point of existence, to run their business and grow even at their stage. I don’t work for these companies but I do hold positions in them through my 401k.
kagakuninja 3y ago
I have worked in the Bay Area for decades, and never seen 400k+. My current contract comes out at about 165k with no benefits. The reason I work for a soul-less telco, is that it is hard (for me at least) to find a job in the first place. I've been at plenty of small companies as well. If I could have gotten in at Google I would have done it in a heart beat, not just for the money, but to have FAANG on my resume.

by lgkk 3y ago

GoToRO 3y ago

But we are a family!

ngcazz 3y ago

That salary is a reflection of market forces. The fundamentals remain the same: they are workers who support families of arbitrary needs and complexities and not just themselves. Are they expensive to the bottom line? Good -- they _allow_ the bottom line because they are the ones generating value. Not the shareholders and upper managers calling for layoffs to maximize their stock prices who you seem to appreciate more.

lgkk 3y ago
I’m just pointing out reality. Sorry I know it’s not “kind” or whatever. Just true though. If someone makes a Faustian bargain, it will have consequences. You make a deal with the devil (biggest capitalist empires on the planet - I don’t think they’re evil btw I’m just making analogy) and the devil will come for you. For them, it’s just business. That’s their whole point of existence, to run their business and grow even at their stage. I don’t work for these companies but I do hold positions in them through my 401k.

kagakuninja 3y ago

I have worked in the Bay Area for decades, and never seen 400k+. My current contract comes out at about 165k with no benefits. The reason I work for a soul-less telco, is that it is hard (for me at least) to find a job in the first place. I've been at plenty of small companies as well. If I could have gotten in at Google I would have done it in a heart beat, not just for the money, but to have FAANG on my resume.