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That the international community hasn't recognized Somaliland is a travesty.
by boxed 3y ago
That the international community hasn't recognized Somaliland is a travesty.
- genieyclo 3y agoNothing to recognize, just 3 towns in north Somalia with a weird fetish for their old colonial masters. The territory Muse Bihi wants to give away to Ethiopia is famous for their Somali patriotism and is holding huge daily protests against this nonsense from Hargeisa. Ethiopia will stay landlocked, no matter what war criminals like Muse Bihi or Abiye Ahmed desire.
- rashthedude 3y ago[flagged]
- genieyclo 3y agoYes, Muse Bihi is a war criminal who has the blood of tens of thousands on his hands from wars stretching back to the 90s in north Somalia. His indiscriminate bombing of Laascaanood over the last year is just a continuation of the failed tribal Somaliland project. Abiye Ahmed is a war criminal who has committed crimes against humanity in his attacks across Ethiopia, including genocide in Tigray. All of this is well-documented.
- rashthedude 3y agoLet us not throw around baseless claims and tarnish the image of individuals who you deem to view in a certain light.
- ffgjgf1 3y agoIs there is other way to describe what was going on in Tigray?
- DialMarshalls 3y agoWhy? Whether historically right or wrong, Somaliland is officially a part of Somalia. Granting diplomatic recognition to what is essentially a breakaway region seems counterproductive when Somalia is still recovering from decades of civil war.
- alexey-salmin 3y ago> Granting diplomatic recognition to what is essentially a breakaway region seems counterproductive when XXX is still recovering from decades of civil war. This seem to happen fairly often though
- resolutebat 3y ago(British) Somaliland was briefly independent before it chose to join Somalia. I don't see why they can't just choose to leave again.
- DialMarshalls 3y ago> (British) Somaliland was briefly independent before it chose to join Somalia. A valid point. The unification of British and Italian Somaliland is itself a controversial topic. > I don't see why they can't just choose to leave again. If it was as simple as separating the two into co-existing countries, then sure Somaliland would have gained international recognition at some point in the last thirty years.
- mcv 3y agoSo what's the real reason the international community won't recognise it? What reason do they have to keep it part of Somalia?
- bawolff 3y agoEven if it wasn't, regions secede. Its not like the set of countries and borders is permenently fixed and its impossible to make new ones.
- christophilus 3y agoAside: Sincere question: I see travesty used in this manner a lot, and I'm never sure what it means. Did you mean tragedy? Is there some common meaning to travesty, like maybe it's a truncation of "travesty of justice" or something? From Webster's dictionary, travesty means: 1. a debased, distorted, or grossly inferior imitation (example: "a travesty of justice") 2. a burlesque translation or literary or artistic imitation usually grotesquely incongruous in style, treatment, or subject matter Anyway, I'm not being pedantic-- I really feel like I'm missing something, since I frequently see it used without any subsequent qualifications, and I never know what it's supposed to mean when it's a standalone word.
- toyg 3y agoIt's your n.1, although the object is assumed. In this case, it stands for something like "a travesty of justice in international relations". The writer assumes that certain processes should work in certain ways to produce certain outputs, and sees the current situation as something that a working system should not produce.
- boxed 3y agoI mean, it fits both honestly. It's a mockery of the ideals international cooperation should stand for. The word is used like this a lot and that's why I use the word like this. Just like I use "chair" for the thing I sit on :P