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It's filled (sadly) by Reddit and not much else. I hope the fediverse somehow wins but it doesn't look likely any time soon

blashyrk 3y ago
I tried Lemmy for a bit and found it to be nothing more than a tiny Reddit clone. And I don't mean just the software aspect of it, rather the content and moderation.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  Wasn't being a Reddit clone the point though?
  - gerikson 3y ago
    Reddit recreated the social structure of Usenet. Shared infrastructure, but the subreddits managed themselves. Topics, threads... all similar to Usenet. Better multimedia support, of course. Even the phenomenon of anonymous posters (because accounts didn't require an email for a long time), flames, crossposting... all very like usenet.
    - rightbyte 3y ago
      Usenet did not have moderators right? Reddit was more of a "run-a-forum as a service". But the Big Drama made it clear that it's Reddit's forum, not yours. Bait and switch.
      - gerikson 3y ago
        Usenet did have moderation, as per this Reddit post (ironically): https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/m2dtcg/usenet_moderation_process/ https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/m2dtcg/us... Usenet preceded modern social media so the current discussions about who owns content didn't apply. Reddit was remarkably open in the beginning. Anon accounts, light moderation, open API... it's when they decided to try to extract more value that it became really shitty.
      - kergonath 3y ago
        > Usenet did not have moderators right? It depends on the newsgroup. Some of them did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup
        SyberShock 3y ago
        There are still active, moderated newsgroups. The majority of them have dried up, but some are still relevant.
    - mcv 3y ago
      The one thing Reddit didn't copy from usenet was the decentralisation. In that sense, I guess Lemmy is a step forward.
  - fluidcruft 3y ago
    Discoverability and fragmentation seem to be the problems on Lemmy. Groups are small (not really a problem, the smaller subreddits with active and engaged people are better IMHO) but it's really difficult and high-effort for groups to form. Reddit did seem to have that part working well. I think people have gone into Discord (which sucks/I cannot stand).

blashyrk 3y ago

I tried Lemmy for a bit and found it to be nothing more than a tiny Reddit clone. And I don't mean just the software aspect of it, rather the content and moderation.

rightbyte 3y ago
Wasn't being a Reddit clone the point though?
- gerikson 3y ago
  Reddit recreated the social structure of Usenet. Shared infrastructure, but the subreddits managed themselves. Topics, threads... all similar to Usenet. Better multimedia support, of course. Even the phenomenon of anonymous posters (because accounts didn't require an email for a long time), flames, crossposting... all very like usenet.
  - rightbyte 3y ago
    Usenet did not have moderators right? Reddit was more of a "run-a-forum as a service". But the Big Drama made it clear that it's Reddit's forum, not yours. Bait and switch.
    - gerikson 3y ago
      Usenet did have moderation, as per this Reddit post (ironically): https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/m2dtcg/usenet_moderation_process/ https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/m2dtcg/us... Usenet preceded modern social media so the current discussions about who owns content didn't apply. Reddit was remarkably open in the beginning. Anon accounts, light moderation, open API... it's when they decided to try to extract more value that it became really shitty.
    - kergonath 3y ago
      > Usenet did not have moderators right? It depends on the newsgroup. Some of them did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup
      - SyberShock 3y ago
        There are still active, moderated newsgroups. The majority of them have dried up, but some are still relevant.
  - mcv 3y ago
    The one thing Reddit didn't copy from usenet was the decentralisation. In that sense, I guess Lemmy is a step forward.
- fluidcruft 3y ago
  Discoverability and fragmentation seem to be the problems on Lemmy. Groups are small (not really a problem, the smaller subreddits with active and engaged people are better IMHO) but it's really difficult and high-effort for groups to form. Reddit did seem to have that part working well. I think people have gone into Discord (which sucks/I cannot stand).