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That sounds to me less of an issue with ChatGPT, and more with having colleagues that don't understand how to engage in reasonable discussion or evaluate inform

That sounds to me less of an issue with ChatGPT, and more with having colleagues that don't understand how to engage in reasonable discussion or evaluate information correctly.

notjoemama 3y ago
Good point. Maybe they can invite a discussion where the suggester walks through ChatGPT steps explaining how it is done? Hopefully people aren't so flippant they hammer their keyboard and hit send email. If that's the case, then maybe they need an ego check. I think my default response would be (regardless of the ChatGPT instructions): "I looked it over and it doesn't actually work. ChatGPT is good for many high level things but when the specifics get technical, is struggles and invents solutions that don't exist; like a bloom filter. Ask ChaGPT what a bloom filter is."
chefandy 3y ago
And the question was how to get the their coworkers to stop giving copy/pasted ChatGPT technical answers from prompts written by nontechnical people, not how ChatGPT can do a better job.
- ryanklee 3y ago
  And I didn't suggest how to do so. I implied that there is an issue with the quality of their coworkers, not ChatGPT.
  - chefandy 3y ago
    And since nobody implied it was a problem with ChatGPT itself, I pointed that out. Glad we cleared all of this up.
    - ryanklee 3y ago
      The saltines is basically inappropriate.
      - chefandy 3y ago
        Apologies of it read as salty rather than mildly tongue-in-cheek.
tdeck 3y ago
ChatGPT is absolutely a symptom here of the underlying problem. Frankly I think it's possible that OP is being too solicitous with these requests. Why does this other team think OP needs a constant input of new ideas? Why do they feel comfortable repeatedly second guessing OP in OP's are of expertise? It sounds like the planning process is totally out of whack. If they were clipping ideas out of a magazine and asking OP to do them it could be just as bad.
krainboltgreene 3y ago
It is significantly cheaper to ban a poor tool than to teach critical thinking.
- ryanklee 3y ago
  The problem is with the person, not the tool. Get rid of people who can't think critically, replace them with people who can.
  - krainboltgreene 3y ago
    Sure it's not the tool if you completely ignore 80% of the story. It's cheaper to ban a tool than "hire people who can critically think", as if I ever believed people could intentionally detect that.

That sounds to me less of an issue with ChatGPT, and more with having colleagues that don't understand how to engage in reasonable discussion or evaluate information correctly.

notjoemama 3y ago

Good point. Maybe they can invite a discussion where the suggester walks through ChatGPT steps explaining how it is done? Hopefully people aren't so flippant they hammer their keyboard and hit send email. If that's the case, then maybe they need an ego check. I think my default response would be (regardless of the ChatGPT instructions): "I looked it over and it doesn't actually work. ChatGPT is good for many high level things but when the specifics get technical, is struggles and invents solutions that don't exist; like a bloom filter. Ask ChaGPT what a bloom filter is."

chefandy 3y ago

And the question was how to get the their coworkers to stop giving copy/pasted ChatGPT technical answers from prompts written by nontechnical people, not how ChatGPT can do a better job.

ryanklee 3y ago
And I didn't suggest how to do so. I implied that there is an issue with the quality of their coworkers, not ChatGPT.
- chefandy 3y ago
  And since nobody implied it was a problem with ChatGPT itself, I pointed that out. Glad we cleared all of this up.
  - ryanklee 3y ago
    The saltines is basically inappropriate.
    - chefandy 3y ago
      Apologies of it read as salty rather than mildly tongue-in-cheek.

tdeck 3y ago

ChatGPT is absolutely a symptom here of the underlying problem. Frankly I think it's possible that OP is being too solicitous with these requests. Why does this other team think OP needs a constant input of new ideas? Why do they feel comfortable repeatedly second guessing OP in OP's are of expertise? It sounds like the planning process is totally out of whack. If they were clipping ideas out of a magazine and asking OP to do them it could be just as bad.

krainboltgreene 3y ago

It is significantly cheaper to ban a poor tool than to teach critical thinking.

ryanklee 3y ago
The problem is with the person, not the tool. Get rid of people who can't think critically, replace them with people who can.
- krainboltgreene 3y ago
  Sure it's not the tool if you completely ignore 80% of the story. It's cheaper to ban a tool than "hire people who can critically think", as if I ever believed people could intentionally detect that.